90gt Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 From what I saw at the track rental it takes 700hp to run 11's in a new camaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Don't get your panties in a bunch over the overweight camaro not hanging. We all know it's a heavy car, but that's not my fault. Let's see... a lighter car making roughly the same power.....I wonder what is going to happen? I also highly doubt that the high 15, low 16 second V6 camaro would be in the picture at all. V6 runs low 14's @ around 98 MPH. I am betting that Camaro was a V6 car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 From what I saw at the track rental it takes 700hp to run 11's in a new camaro. i seen that too V6 runs low 14's @ around 98 MPH. I am betting that Camaro was a V6 car. funny how the ford v-6 runs what...low 13's stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 V6 runs low 14's @ around 98 MPH. I am betting that Camaro was a V6 car. Not to be a dick here, honestly for once I'm not, where did you get that info? I know it doesn't mean anything, but the handful I have seen have been in the high 15 to low 16 second area. I'm sure there are the "good drivers" out there getting better times, but I haven't seen any. I was impressed with one of the newer auto SS's running full exhaust and going 12.5x's. That was a good pass with that heavy ass thing. The best part about this whole new motor in the mustang is that it is sparking this old debate again. You have to love the rivalries. It's about time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 From what I saw at the track rental it takes 700hp to run 11's in a new camaro. Very true, but what did the white one put down? It ran a tad better et wise. Of course you know how I feel about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Not to be a dick here, honestly for once I'm not, where did you get that info? I know it doesn't mean anything, but the handful I have seen have been in the high 15 to low 16 second area. http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2009/03/il-track-tested-2010-camaro-v6-vs-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-38.html http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Camaro-Timeslip-18579.html Not a lot of videos out there on it, but I've seen a bunch of stock times in the 14's listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2009/03/il-track-tested-2010-camaro-v6-vs-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-38.html http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Camaro-Timeslip-18579.html Not a lot of videos out there on it, but I've seen a bunch of stock times in the 14's listed. In the youtube video, is that the stock exhaust on the camaro? If so, it doesn't sound too great. I realize it's a V6, but it just doesn't sound that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacfreak142 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Not to be a dick here, honestly for once I'm not, where did you get that info? I know it doesn't mean anything, but the handful I have seen have been in the high 15 to low 16 second area. I'm sure there are the "good drivers" out there getting better times, but I haven't seen any. I was impressed with one of the newer auto SS's running full exhaust and going 12.5x's. That was a good pass with that heavy ass thing. The best part about this whole new motor in the mustang is that it is sparking this old debate again. You have to love the rivalries. It's about time. ok, but was this pass also made on slicks or just street tires? The point that some people are missing is, these motors are 2 entirely different beasts. comparing a full bolt on, tune and slick stang to an SS with an exaust and street tires just doesnt work. for 1, the mustang has the advantage of having an overhead cam motor which doesnt make power until higher rpm, as compared to the LS3 that makes a crap ton of its torque down low (meaning its a harder car to get a good launch in on street tires) my guess is, even though the camaro is a heavier car, with the same mods to both cars including slicks, they would be just about dead even. the V6 camaro is rated at about 14.2, but ive read some where that there has been a few to run 13.9's stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 ok, but was this pass also made on slicks or just street tires? The point that some people are missing is, these motors are 2 entirely different beasts. comparing a full bolt on, tune and slick stang to an SS with an exaust and street tires just doesnt work. for 1, the mustang has the advantage of having an overhead cam motor which doesnt make power until higher rpm, as compared to the LS3 that makes a crap ton of its torque down low (meaning its a harder car to get a good launch in on street tires) my guess is, even though the camaro is a heavier car, with the same mods to both cars including slicks, they would be just about dead even. the V6 camaro is rated at about 14.2, but ive read some where that there has been a few to run 13.9's stock. Full exhaust and tuned 6-spd camaro running 11.8x's? I doubt it. It would need to be on a serious diet first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotCarl Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I dont care what anyone says, i like it in everyway way more than the Camaro. Trim for trim, the mustang is a better car. If it was my money id have a tough time justifying spending 35k on the 5.0, instead of the 300hp V6 that gets 31mpg (w/ an auto). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Full exhaust and tuned 6-spd camaro running 11.8x's? I doubt it. It would need to be on a serious diet first. With slicks...possible. How is it the GTO I posted did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAWDAD Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 (edited) comparing a full bolt on, tune and slick stang to an SS with an exaust and street tires just doesnt work. . Incorrect - Mustang was NOT on slicks ( it was on DOT DRAG RADIALS) and it was not a FULL BOLT ON car. it had a Tune, mufflers, D/R's and some control arms! list to full bolt on- CAI, MAF, Throttle body, under drive pulleys, gears, Headers, Off Road X-pipe, Complete Suspension, drive shaft, clutch. Feel free to add to the bolt-on list. But the mustang was not a full bolt on car! Edited May 13, 2010 by CRAWDAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 With slicks...possible. How is it the GTO I posted did it? Well, it looks like some weight was out of the GTO "The car was ran at the track with simililar form compared to LS1Mellisa, All seats, skid plate, gas brace, tow brace were all removed." Also, the car was cutting 1.5x 60's which is way better than most of the GTO's running around with that power level. To run 11.8x's @112 you are either hooking really hard, or the car isn't full weight. It looks like both are the case here. Either way, that GTO is getting it done for the little bit that is on it. Just found another little bit of info. GTO owner estimated a 3400-3500 lb race weight for the car. My friends 04 was 39xx. There is your answer. A lot of weight reduction. The mustang posted is the first one that has a full exhaust, tune, and tires. I have a feeling that it will run better with time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Wow, what an informative video. Was that even an SS it was running against? Was that Mustang even stock? You don't even get to see the Camaro launch. I am doubting it. But here are the dyno graphs from LG Motorsports getting 424 RWHP on a LS3 Camaro, bolt on's: http://www.lgmotorsports.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=31&pos=5 Here the beginning of the video with some other testinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXusbh5hb8U&feature=email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPS Mike Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Very true, but what did the white one put down? It ran a tad better et wise. Of course you know how I feel about it Neither car made anywhere near 700hp at that track day. Black car was a super heat-soaked 600rwhp and the white car who knows lol. It is dropping off next week for LSx heads and then we will find out for sure. Black car is getting complete fuel system and 10psi pulley back on which will put him back at the 740rwhp mark. Main difference wasn't power -- it was that one was an Auto and the other a 6-speed Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 What's the price on a new, fully loaded Muskrat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 What's the price on a new, fully loaded Muskrat? Per ford's Site GT Premium is: $32,845 Starting MSRP1 MPG City/Hwy 17/26.2 Equipment Highlights: 5.0L 4V Ti-VCT V8 engine Reclining leather-trimmmed front bucket seats with a six-way power adjustable driver's seat and two-way adjustable headrest 18" wide-spoke painted aluminum wheels Dual stainless-steel exhaust bright rolled tip exhaust Ambient interior lighting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Neither car made anywhere near 700hp at that track day. Black car was a super heat-soaked 600rwhp and the white car who knows lol. It is dropping off next week for LSx heads and then we will find out for sure. Black car is getting complete fuel system and 10psi pulley back on which will put him back at the 740rwhp mark. Main difference wasn't power -- it was that one was an Auto and the other a 6-speed Mike I know that the black one is a stick and the white an auto, but that white one had one hell of a shot of nitrous on it What else, other than fuel upgrades, was done to it? Kid driving the black car needs some seat time and a driving tutor, car makes good power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAM09 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Damn, that's impressive But they still look like shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRTurbo04 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I Kid driving the black car needs some seat time and a driving tutor, car makes good power. An a attitude change too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAWDAD Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Let the experts decide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammit Charlie Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 And so the Camaro vs. Mustang war begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 But they still look like shit. They aren't bad... http://ontheautomotive.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/2011-mach-1-mustang_100182494_l.jpg http://the-grayline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/2011-mustang-gt-coyote.jpg http://rahmadi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2011-barrett-jackson-edition-roush-ford-mustang.jpg http://www.carphotos.org/gallery/data/1102/2010_roush_427r-rear.jpg I've always liked the GT500's better though.... *NWS* http://www.lethalperformance.com/jessica_barton_2010_GT500 http://www.lethalperformance.com/# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 the lethal gt500 is the shit.. 330 motor and big boost!..looking for 8's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Maybe the vette should go on the auction block http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs653.snc3/32279_10150174551140648_262882950647_12412943_4526386_n.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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