iluvfastcarz Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Don't know if this is the right section for this or not. I am looking to go single turbo on my 00 Audi S4. Anyone or any shops looking to get into a project like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Plenty will do it, your budget will be the deciding factor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Why single turbo? Has anyone even done this? I'm not sure there is room to do what you are trying to do. I'm not too up on my knowledge, but aren't there bolt on upgraded turbo kit's that will make a lot of power... 600-700whp, maybe more? What are you trying to accomplish? What are you trying to accomplish that can't be done with existing parts, which will very likely be easier and probably less expensive in the long run? You're a shop owner, but your shop can't do this? Why not use the stock manifolds, or many of the aftermarket ones that are already out there, and just go from there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I'd stick with twins. Yes it's been done, but it requires a lot of modification, and you will essentially get the same power as any of the bolt on twins, but with more lag. It's not cheaper either, so I'm not sure what the draw to a single is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 http://i.imgur.com/MEg9Q.jpg It's not going to happen done correctly for less than $10k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Rob, did you guys do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Why single turbo? Has anyone even done this? I'm not sure there is room to do what you are trying to do. I'm not too up on my knowledge, but aren't there bolt on upgraded turbo kit's that will make a lot of power... 600-700whp, maybe more? What are you trying to accomplish? What are you trying to accomplish that can't be done with existing parts, which will very likely be easier and probably less expensive in the long run? You're a shop owner, but your shop can't do this? Why not use the stock manifolds, or many of the aftermarket ones that are already out there, and just go from there? CALM THE FOCK DOWN JESSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 http://i.imgur.com/MEg9Q.jpg It's not going to happen done correctly for less than $10k. That does look tits, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 inb4 jones tells you to go with twin tial r770. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 CALM THE FOCK DOWN JESSE You calm down... Who's saying I'm not calm! Are you saying I'm not CALM? How DARE YOU INSULT ME like that!!!! YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S NOT CALM!!!!! YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN!!!!!!!! YOU CAN'T HANDEL THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!! http://thefacepalmedgamer.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/rageface.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 pm Alex L on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Stay twin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 As always, the K.I.S.S. theory applies here. As you probably know, people have made 600-800awhp on twins, hell you can easily make 700awhp on 100% stock intake & exhaust manifolds with bolt on turbo's. If /when I ever ditch the K04's it will be for a ARD or similar GT28RS kit, china rods and call it a day. For Reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BZ7bTshHLdw That's a Turbo S PDK that traps about 130 stock.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvfastcarz Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Yes I understand how you guys feel about the already existing twin turbo kits. I would definitely not go with anything less than the Tial 770Rs, however the turbos alone cost $4600 which uses stock exhaust manifolds. Inlet pipes are $600, downpipes are $1000. This still doesn't take into consideration the intercooler setup which will be another $1200, RS4 Y pipe etc etc which would add up close to $8000. I already have a dual ball bearing Precision 6265 turbocharger which I bought for $900 brand new, exhaust manifolds and downpipe $2000, intercooler setup with piping $700, wastegate and blow off valve (s) $600. So that is basically $4200, and I can change the turbo to meet whatever hp goal I desire and I get a beautiful engine bay with something that you do not see everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Yes I understand how you guys feel about the already existing twin turbo kits. I would definitely not go with anything less than the Tial 770Rs, however the turbos alone cost $4600 which uses stock exhaust manifolds. Inlet pipes are $600, downpipes are $1000. This still doesn't take into consideration the intercooler setup which will be another $1200, RS4 Y pipe etc etc which would add up close to $8000. I already have a dual ball bearing Precision 6265 turbocharger which I bought for $900 brand new, exhaust manifolds and downpipe $2000, intercooler setup with piping $700, wastegate and blow off valve (s) $600. So that is basically $4200, and I can change the turbo to meet whatever hp goal I desire and I get a beautiful engine bay with something that you do not see everyday. Cool, let us know how it turns out when you spend more money getting the fabrication and fitment done than you ever imagined. There is a thread on AZ tracking a single turbo build, read through it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Might as well throw some 2.8 heads on there, and go 3.0L :fuckyeah: Good luck, keep us updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Is there a way to even go single without cutting a slit in the radiator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Sadly, 99% of Big Turbo builds take forever, have 900 pitafalls, and after a dyno, the owner sells or never drives it. Mostly out of fear of something breaking. I say keep it simple. Keep it 2.7,valve-train, bolt on twins, china rods, 30psi = 600-700awhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBMW Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Sadly, 99% of Big Turbo builds take forever, have 900 pitafalls, and after a dyno, the owner sells or never drives it. Mostly out of fear of something breaking. I say keep it simple. Keep it 2.7,valve-train, bolt on twins, china rods, 30psi = 600-700awhp. Id say keep it even more simple... -Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Id say keep it even more simple... -Marc Who are you telling, I'm the biggest K04 fan ever..... K04's are magical on the this motor, instant spool, excellent power band, no stressing about rods or valvetrain builds. Good balanced power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Who are you telling, I'm the biggest K04 fan ever..... K04's are magical on the this motor, instant spool, excellent power band, no stressing about rods or valvetrain builds. Good balanced power. Like Cosworth even knows anything about engines. :gabe: #1 reason I didn't go bigger than K04's was that I didn't have to deal with replacing rods. There was some fool on audizine with a single that was talking shit a while back, didn't he end up getting his ass handed to him by a k04 car? I believe so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Like Cosworth even knows anything about engines. :gabe: #1 reason I didn't go bigger than K04's was that I didn't have to deal with replacing rods. There was some fool on audizine with a single that was talking shit a while back, didn't he end up getting his ass handed to him by a k04 car? I believe so. Shhhhh...don't ruin the punchline....... Having a torque & power band the size of texas > 700awhp for 2000rpms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBMW Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Who are you telling, I'm the biggest K04 fan ever..... K04's are magical on the this motor, instant spool, excellent power band, no stressing about rods or valvetrain builds. Good balanced power. Simple Like Cosworth even knows anything about engines. :gabe: #1 reason I didn't go bigger than K04's was that I didn't have to deal with replacing rods. There was some fool on audizine with a single that was talking shit a while back, didn't he end up getting his ass handed to him by a k04 car? I believe so. Simpler Why single turbo? Has anyone even done this? I'm not sure there is room to do what you are trying to do. I'm not too up on my knowledge, but aren't there bolt on upgraded turbo kit's that will make a lot of power... 600-700whp, maybe more? What are you trying to accomplish? What are you trying to accomplish that can't be done with existing parts, which will very likely be easier and probably less expensive in the long run? You're a shop owner, but your shop can't do this? Why not use the stock manifolds, or many of the aftermarket ones that are already out there, and just go from there? Simplest -Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Simple Simpler Simplest -Marc We are all saying the exact same thing jackhole....:dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBMW Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 We are all saying the exact same thing jackhole....:dumb: huh? -Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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