Brandon Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Turbo We're Bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Eat Rice Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 1. Go with nitrous. 2. Analyze results. 3. Make decision on what to do next given your results with nitrous. This is a no-brainer to me, my friend. There will always be big turbos out there waiting to be put on your car. +1 to this all day long. If I get a vette instead of a supra this is the course of action for me. Ls1's love spray and will hold long enough to figure out what you want to do from where you are at. I say go 2 stage 150shot and spend little money and run fast times. When the day comes to then upgrade to boost you will already be in the low 11's for sure maybe even high 10's with a good heads and cam set up and you will only be making the car more efficient at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidward Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 You dont have to refill a turbo. Just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Biased but..... I hate the upfront turbo cost but you dont have to fill n2o bottles all the time and the power is there when you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Downside to turbo set up, must do LOTS of arts and crafts to get it to fit I am kind of on information overload right now trying to research stuff. About to say fuck it and just be an average heads cam car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brent1976 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I love my turbo, like has been said already, it's always on. I built my motor first, drove it for a year making pretty good power. Then I bolted on the turbo, and made great power, with the potential for a lot more with a turbo more suited to my cu.in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Downside to turbo set up, must do LOTS of arts and crafts to get it to fit I am kind of on information overload right now trying to research stuff. About to say fuck it and just be an average heads cam car. Paralysis through analysis??????????? Fuck it Ill get a box of cutoff wheels and we can put the big boy turbo kit that is laying in my shop from the Trans Am on it :fuckyeah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Paralysis through analysis??????????? Fuck it Ill get a box of cutoff wheels and we can put the big boy turbo kit that is laying in my shop from the Trans Am on it :fuckyeah: I'll drive my junker over there to get that done! :fuckyeah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Well Wags there are about as many way to acomplish nitrous or turbo as your imagination will allow. IMHO you'll have to decide on the major aspects. Do you want to keep any creature comforts? Obviously much easier to do with nitrous unless you spend big bucks on turbo stuff. Do you want to be able to return the car to stock at some point? Again easier to do with nitrous, but not impossible with a turbo. How often are you actually going to use the power? Certainly not every time you drive it, but this goes into how fast the cost of refilling nitrous bottles will catch up to buying all the turbo stuff. When you do build an engine how radical are you going to go? Nitrous is pretty easy to upgrade in sections, a turbo that'll work well on your stock engine (not just the actual turbo, but the piping, intercooler) will likely need a lot of things re-engineered to see its potential on a built engine. This will likely be argued my many people but I'm a perfectionist. Personally I like both power adders a lot, and can understand why it gets to be a hard decision. I have lots of ideas for both so if you want to sit down and draw up some of what goes through my head we can do that, you might find something you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTHER91 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 so many locals have done both man like we talked the other night I would go Spray at first, I mena linn has done what you want to do with your car just ask him, then again you do have your friend Ray hahah he may know a thing or two.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 From an engineering standpoint, nitrous is everything boost is, already cooled. With the proper means to control and manage it, can't see how you could go wrong. This... I hate how many supporting mods are necessary to run a turbo setup. Dealing with installing proper manifolds, running piping, mounting an IC, running oil lines and etc. is just a PITA if you ask me. Either way, you'll have to build the motor to support said mods down the road, I'd rather save cluttering the engine bay, for filling a bottle multiple times. Plus, much easier to troll the fuck out of someone when you don't have a front mount and a huge turbo to hide. :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I run the same time in 90 degree weather hot lapping that I do in 60 degree weather... But its like having a rechargable battery thats drained when you need it most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Paralysis through analysis??????????? Fuck it Ill get a box of cutoff wheels and we can put the big boy turbo kit that is laying in my shop from the Trans Am on it :fuckyeah: Don't tempt me... Well Wags there are about as many way to acomplish nitrous or turbo as your imagination will allow. IMHO you'll have to decide on the major aspects. Do you want to keep any creature comforts? Obviously much easier to do with nitrous unless you spend big bucks on turbo stuff. Do you want to be able to return the car to stock at some point? Again easier to do with nitrous, but not impossible with a turbo. How often are you actually going to use the power? Certainly not every time you drive it, but this goes into how fast the cost of refilling nitrous bottles will catch up to buying all the turbo stuff. When you do build an engine how radical are you going to go? Nitrous is pretty easy to upgrade in sections, a turbo that'll work well on your stock engine (not just the actual turbo, but the piping, intercooler) will likely need a lot of things re-engineered to see its potential on a built engine. This will likely be argued my many people but I'm a perfectionist. Personally I like both power adders a lot, and can understand why it gets to be a hard decision. I have lots of ideas for both so if you want to sit down and draw up some of what goes through my head we can do that, you might find something you like. Case of beer, an Excell spreadsheet, and the internet should be all we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Just buy my car Edited January 24, 2012 by V8 Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS_Sonoma Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Direct port 200 wet shot. Run that till something goes then build something nastier able to handle serious boost. No profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRAntwon Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 A truck manifold turbo setup can be fabricated at a low enough cost that I would do it. O wait, I am keke Ive used a lot of nitrous and I love it, it is reliable enough if there is a safe tune (Eric S, IPS) and can be had for around 5-600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Spray it till you run the crank over. Rebuild, spray it some more. Then swap in LT1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Spray it till you run the crank over. Rebuild, spray it some more. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I've owned both big hp nitrous motor car and big hp turbo motor car. I will always go with turbo over the two. With an auto it should be a really fast car with a turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 im surprised nobody suggested a supercharger with n2o, i know its not one of the two things your lookin at, however a supercharger you get into boost a lot quicker than a turbo, and for what you cant make in boost compared to a turbo you can make up with n2o. depends on what you wanna spend though, you can probably get a centrifugal setup used for a really decent price, but i would go new with the blower itself or rebuild for reliability, or if you want to spend a lil more and be real nasty you could always go roots type. its just a suggestion, i was just thinkin of off the line power, with nitrous you can have that, but with a turbo you cant as easily, but since your goin for lower et's then a supercharger wouldnt be a bad idea imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 im surprised nobody suggested a supercharger with n2o, i know its not one of the two things your lookin at, however a supercharger you get into boost a lot quicker than a turbo, and for what you cant make in boost compared to a turbo you can make up with n2o. depends on what you wanna spend though, you can probably get a centrifugal setup used for a really decent price, but i would go new with the blower itself or rebuild for reliability, or if you want to spend a lil more and be real nasty you could always go roots type. its just a suggestion, i was just thinkin of off the line power, with nitrous you can have that, but with a turbo you cant as easily, but since your goin for lower et's then a supercharger wouldnt be a bad idea imho :lolguy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 This. You left out the important part. LT1 swap. The major drawback to a blower car as I see it, you have major rocker arm problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStowers023 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 im surprised nobody suggested a supercharger with n2o, i know its not one of the two things your lookin at, however a supercharger you get into boost a lot quicker than a turbo, and for what you cant make in boost compared to a turbo you can make up with n2o. depends on what you wanna spend though, you can probably get a centrifugal setup used for a really decent price, but i would go new with the blower itself or rebuild for reliability, or if you want to spend a lil more and be real nasty you could always go roots type. its just a suggestion, i was just thinkin of off the line power, with nitrous you can have that, but with a turbo you cant as easily, but since your goin for lower et's then a supercharger wouldnt be a bad idea imho Roots blower FTL...... Wagner, what all is done to your car as it sits now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Roots blower FTL...... Wagner, what all is done to your car as it sits now? Yeah roots blower will not fit without cutting up the cowl... On the car now: ~3500 stall Headers and cat back CAI Tune (not that aggressive) Lower control arms Lower control arm relocation brackets SFCs Pan hard rod BFG DRs On deck: 9inch Relocated torqe arm In the hole: LS6 intake with ported TB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.