Sully Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I drove the car yesterday without issue. Went out this morning to go to work and it won't start. It turns over just fine. I pop the hood and see one of the spark plug boots not completely seated on the plug. I push it down and it pops back off. I pull it off and discover that hole is full of oil :fuuuu:. The other 3 holes are dry. So, where do I begin? What caused this? What will it take to fix it? Edit: This is a D15B2 motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedfocus1647545489 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Busted O-ring around the spark plug hole in the valve cover? I'm not a Honda guy, so I'm not sure if they have an o-ring there but I'd start there since it's easy to remove the VC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Sounds like you could replace / clean the plug and it'd start, but would probably just happen again. I agree with valve cover gaskets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 They do, replace the valve cover gasket, spark plug tube seals, plugs, and wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Definitley the spark plug grommets that are bad, pretty common thing on Hondas. If that doesn't fix it try messing with the main relay up under the dash on driver side. My dads CRX doesnt like to start sometimes, he just plays with that relay and it'll fire right up lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 So, what's the best/proper way to go about this? Soak up the oil from the hole as best as I can before removing the spark plug? Do I even need to remove the spark plugs in order to remove the valve cover? I know I can do this, it would just help if I had proper direction on fixing this, so that I don't make matters worse. TIA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Just pull the plug out and let it run down in the hole, if it's a lot of oil you can crank the engine over with the plugs out for a few seconds, it isn't going to hurt anything. Then replace the valve cover gaskets and o-rings, make sure your new gasket comes with the round seals for the top of the spark plug tubes. Make sure the wires clean up and haven't softened up, plugs wouldn't be a bad idea at this time either, some $2 NGKs while you're in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 So, what's the best/proper way to go about this? Soak up the oil from the hole as best as I can before removing the spark plug? Do I even need to remove the spark plugs in order to remove the valve cover? I know I can do this, it would just help if I had proper direction on fixing this, so that I don't make matters worse. TIA! I can come over this weekend and give you a hand fixing it. Since I'm just down the road. If it ran I would say grab the parts and come to my house. But it wont run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 You'd think a good running Honda would still start even if 3 cylinders are good or it at least try to start. You'd be smart to fix the oil leak at the spark plug tube, but I'd also make sure you're getting spark. Those motors are notorious for bad distributors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 All hondas are notorious for bad distributors... It may not start after fixing this issue... But this is an issue that needs addressed. You can always pull the other 3 plugs out, and see if they are getting spark... But Regardless I would fix the oil in tube issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I soaked up as much oil out of that one hole as I could with paper towels. Pulled the plugs (they are already NGK's) and valve cover, replaced the grommets and gasket and put it all back together. The car started right up. WooHoo!!! Thanks again everyone for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Cool deal. Keep an eye on those tube seals. Make sure they don't fill back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Cool deal. Keep an eye on those tube seals. Make sure they don't fill back up. Already thought of that this morning after I got it started. LoL. Plus I'll want to check the valve cover gasket to make sure it's not leaking also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Ok, so one of the tubes has oil in it again. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 The only reason is that seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 They are new, so why is it happening again? I can't replace them every week and I'm not going to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Where they installed right? Pinched when put on? What brand gasket did you use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 LoL, yeah, they were installed right. I used whatever Advanced Auto had available. Since it's the same hole that was the problem to begin with, I'm thinking it's not the seals. Maybe the cover is warped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Did you use a calibrated torque wrench? I mean it could be warped, but not likely if it is torqued down. Could also have a crack causing oil to get in. But also not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 LoL, yeah, they were installed right. I used whatever Advanced Auto had available. Since it's the same hole that was the problem to begin with, I'm thinking it's not the seals. Maybe the cover is warped? Just have to pull it off and inspect for cracks, warping (with a straight edge), is the tube running up from the head have an issue? Best thing to do is take it apart and look, you've got enough common sense to figure out is something is wrong. Even doing stuff like this every day I've rolled a gasket without realizing it, shit happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Did you use a calibrated torque wrench No. :gabe: When I get time (it's going to be a couple weeks), I'll pull the damn thing off and look at it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 No. :gabe: When I get time (it's going to be a couple weeks), I'll pull the damn thing off and look at it again. :megusta: Is your motor like this one? Forgot some of those have 2nd seals inside the head. Which would make perfect Cents considering its the same hole. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6RT42UqveU&feature=youtube_gdata_player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. Too much work for a little bit of oil. LoL. Maybe as long as the car is running, I'll leave it alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSS Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 sorry I'm late to your party but it IS the o-rings between the rocker assembly and the cylinder head its very common and easy to fix I've done several at the dealership plus I did my accord in my driveway last summer, remove the valve cover, put the engine on TDC, mark the cam gear and t-belt with a paint marker and slowly remove the cam gear, timing belt, and rocker assembly, replace the brittle o-rings under the rocker assembly, re-install the rocker assembly, cam gear & t-belt, go through and check the valve clearance adjust if needed re-install the valve cover and your done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Cracked Valve Cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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