Draco-REX Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I don't know how anyone over 18 not living at home could afford to take a $9hr job. :no: WOW. Welcome to "How things Are". Consider on top of that some may have school loans as well. This is why more and more young adults are staying home. The only other choice is to share a place with someone else and pray they will keep up with their half of the bills. That comes to $18,720 / year gross.... :fuuuu: KillJoy That's a 40hr week. Noone gets a 40Hr week these days. 32-35hrs is full time now. THat's only $15K/yr. It's understandable why a lot of people are frustrated right now. But like many things, I don't think it is purely a political issue. Part of it is social. Kids are raised being told that they have to get a White Collar job and that Blue Collar jobs are for people who fail at life. If you're not in a cubicle, you're doing something wrong.... These kids rack up 6 digits of debt before they even hit the job market and then can't find a career. And now essential skills are being lost. Do you know how much a good marine welder makes? I wish my parents had let me go to a trade school when I was young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) No more 10 paragraph Tim posts.... I don't think so. http://www.pbase.com/timothylauro/image/147205869/small.jpg That's a 40hr week. Noone gets a 40Hr week these days. 32-35hrs is full time now. Obamacare consultants approve of the above. Keep them part time. Edited November 7, 2012 by TTQ B4U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Incorrect. Dirt, seed, mist, fan, LIGHT. Fixed Hydro \ seed \ co2 \ fan \ light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGoKart Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Obama was not accepted in the prominent art schools of his country even though his paintings were actually pretty badass??????? Hitler art http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/20122005/900510/LON106_wa.jpg Hitler was a nationalist run amok............. I'm not sure I've ever heard a liberal be accused of being naitonalist before That's because he's not really a liberal. He's a socialist. Or worse. Look at his standings compared to Hitlers. They are nearly identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I took a nap. Woke up and the world still has not ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I took a nap. Woke up and the world still has not ended. I woke up this morning, and Obama was still President. Wait... :dumb: KillJoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted November 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I took a nap. Woke up and the world still has not ended. It's not about ending, man. It's about going in the obvious wrong direction. It's not so surprising though, that a country full of people that can't spend within their own limits, don't give a fuck about what we're doing to 1, 2, and 3 generations from now. I also noticed that things seemed a lot clearer to people with kids, compared to those without. A lot of people voted selfishly Tuesday, instead of for what can *maybe* turn this country around as a whole. It was all about what can he do for me. They fell for "look how evil this rich guy is" antics to shift the focus from Obama's horrible, horrible record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 It's not about ending, man. It's about going in the obvious wrong direction. It's not so surprising though, that a country full of people that can't spend within their own limits, don't give a fuck about what we're doing to 1, 2, and 3 generations from now. I also noticed that things seemed a lot clearer to people with kids, compared to those without. A lot of people voted selfishly Tuesday, instead of for what can *maybe* turn this country around as a whole. It was all about what can he do for me. They fell for "look how evil this rich guy is" antics to shift the focus from Obama's horrible, horrible record. I dont know a single female that voted for him. It was either Gary Johnson or Obama. Homosexuals turned their back on him... You vote for the guy that will best reflect your views. Romney made sure he was not that guy to a lot of people. Best the devil you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 It's not about ending, man. It's about going in the obvious wrong direction. It's not so surprising though, that a country full of people that can't spend within their own limits, don't give a fuck about what we're doing to 1, 2, and 3 generations from now. I also noticed that things seemed a lot clearer to people with kids, compared to those without. A lot of people voted selfishly Tuesday, instead of for what can *maybe* turn this country around as a whole. It was all about what can he do for me. They fell for "look how evil this rich guy is" antics to shift the focus from Obama's horrible, horrible record. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/08/4yme4yru.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 It's not about ending, man. It's about going in the obvious wrong direction. It's not so surprising though, that a country full of people that can't spend within their own limits, don't give a fuck about what we're doing to 1, 2, and 3 generations from now. I also noticed that things seemed a lot clearer to people with kids, compared to those without. A lot of people voted selfishly Tuesday, instead of for what can *maybe* turn this country around as a whole. It was all about what can he do for me. They fell for "look how evil this rich guy is" antics to shift the focus from Obama's horrible, horrible record. The problem is the less intelligent and informed masses who haven't a clue about any of the key topics of concern that support him for all the wrong reasons including what's not in the best interest of raising the bar for this country, put him in place again. Obama encouraged and catered to this crowd and as noted earlier, they now make up greater numbers and as a result will bring the country as a whole down another peg to their level of living. No thanks. Before anyone get's all bent on that statement, yes there were some dumb fucking people of all brackets voting for him. Stupidity has no boundaries. I'll laugh when my nieghbor who had an Obama sign get's laid off from his job. In fact I'll ask to kick him in his nuts. Now the pressure is on the congress as it should be to "force" Obama to get out there and lead with them. He needs to have coffee with Clinton and learn how to do it. For those old enough to recall, congress had to twist his arm too, but Clinton finally did. It really depends on what kind of Legacy Obama cares to leave. He could very well listen and change and do the right and smart thing but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGoKart Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 He won't. He has his own socialist agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 I dont know a single female that voted for him. Because they listened to 30 second, evil-speaking commercials instead of learning facts. Oh, and I hardly know any females that voted Dem. They saw through the BS. Homosexuals turned their back on him... That is some of the "what's in it for me" I was referring to. Ain't it great timing that as soon as Obama realized he needed another couple percent to win, that after many years of blabbing about traditional marriage, he was all of a sudden pro-gay? You vote for the guy that will best reflect your views. False, I voted for who had some kind of chance to give my grand sons and daughters a sliver of hope at having the kind of life I have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 He won't. He has his own socialist agenda. INB4SOMEONESAYSYOUDONTUNDERSTANDSOCIALISM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Challenge of the day: Go to Walmart and look for this person: http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/angry-old-glenn-beck-scooter-lady.jpg Ask them if they are on foodstamps, when the last time was they worked, how much education they have, and who they voted for. Chances are it will be answered like this: 1. Yes I'm on foodstamps 2. Haven't worked in years 3. Some High School 4. Romney! qft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Welcome to "How things Are". Consider on top of that some may have school loans as well. This is why more and more young adults are staying home. The only other choice is to share a place with someone else and pray they will keep up with their half of the bills. That's a 40hr week. Noone gets a 40Hr week these days. 32-35hrs is full time now. THat's only $15K/yr. It's understandable why a lot of people are frustrated right now. But like many things, I don't think it is purely a political issue. Part of it is social. Kids are raised being told that they have to get a White Collar job and that Blue Collar jobs are for people who fail at life. If you're not in a cubicle, you're doing something wrong.... These kids rack up 6 digits of debt before they even hit the job market and then can't find a career. And now essential skills are being lost. Do you know how much a good marine welder makes? I wish my parents had let me go to a trade school when I was young. While I'm still spending a dumb amount of money on a Degree, I still agree with you, completely. Kids these days fresh out of college want to be handed well-paying jobs, which, is a fucking joke. That 60, 70, or 80k dollar piece of paper you're holding is just something nice to include in your resume. If you're not willing to go out and work for a good job, don't expect one to be handed to you. Everyone, unless you're lucky as shit, works their way up in some way to where they're at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 I had a person tell me that our opinions differed and thats why we voted for different candidates. When asked what they based their opinion on they referenced the 30sec commercial on a loop. Did any of you vote based on an opinion, educated opinion or the facts being offered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 qft What does an obese old white woman at Walmart have to do with how much Obama sucks and is wrong for this country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 okay tim keeps tossing around that Obama's voter are supossdily stupid. How about you take a look at the Southern hilbillies who vote for republicans because of JESUS..... It goes both ways. @Nurkvinny the facts are the main reason I could never vote for romney. I don't trust him for a damn thing because he flips so much. Because they listened to 30 second, evil-speaking commercials instead of learning facts. Oh, and I hardly know any females that voted Dem. They saw through the BS. That is some of the "what's in it for me" I was referring to. Ain't it great timing that as soon as Obama realized he needed another couple percent to win, that after many years of blabbing about traditional marriage, he was all of a sudden pro-gay? False, I voted for who had some kind of chance to give my grand sons and daughters a sliver of hope at having the kind of life I have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Which facts are we referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 What does an obese old white woman at Walmart have to do with how much Obama sucks and is wrong for this country? Its the perfect example of someone voting and they don't know why. Here's the thing as people become more educated as a whole people tend to lean towards liberalism.. Why because taking care of your own isn't a bad thing unless your the guy that's not going to get a 2 million dollar bonus next year. Republicans better learn to fly a new flag or there done in the next 20 years because one of there heaviest voting bases is DIEING and there second heaviest voting base is also dieing(Religion). When those lose those people there fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 The perfect example is a picture of a women nobody here knows anything about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Which facts are we referring to? @ 40 seconds makes me lol and for the LULZ ERB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Its easier to pick just one fact to address and discuss than linking a video with 5 second snipits more than half of which appeared to just be giving an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Borgen Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 That's because he's not really a liberal. He's a socialist. Or worse. Look at his standings compared to Hitlers. They are nearly identical. actually, I don't even see it so please enlighten me:yuno: and even if that were the case, Hitler had a vision to make his country better. He was just quite a bit misguided in that he wanted to accomplish it by promoting hate against non-Aryans. One could argue Hitler would have made a great leader if he hadn't gone crazy and pushed his views to the extreme militarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 actually, I don't even see it so please enlighten me:yuno: and even if that were the case, Hitler had a vision to make his country better. He was just quite a bit misguided in that he wanted to accomplish it by promoting hate against non-Aryans. One could argue Hitler would have made a great leader if he hadn't gone crazy and pushed his views to the extreme militarily. Um checks screen name, looks at contents of post, I'm skeered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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