Akdal MKA 1919 shotgun (AR15 style),...anyone have one or shot one?

[Got-Boost?]

Saw one and was curious if anyone has checked them out:

 

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/easyblog_shared/mkablogtn2.jpg

 

MKA 1919 Shotgun 12 Gauge AR15 Style shotgun made in Turkey

These are the newest generation of MKA 1919 shotguns Marked XN and come with 2 -5 round factory mags and choke tubes.

Akdal MKA 1919 semi-automatic shotgun is the new product from Turkish company Akdal Arms. This weapon is intended for civilian and security use, and mimics the famous M16 rifle in its layout and placement of most controls. It is remarkably light for its caliber and size, because of extensive use of modern, high strength plastics.

 

Akdal MKA 1919 semi-automatic shotgun utilizes conventional gas-operated action with annual (ring-type) gas piston, which is located around the support tube that runs below the barrel. Return spring is also located around the same tube, which is concealed by enlarged polymer handguards. Barrel is quick-removable from upper receiver, barrel locking is achieved by tilting locking piece inside the bolt, which engages the barrel extension. Charging handle is attached to the bolt and projects on the right side of the receiver. The upper receiver is manufactured from aluminum alloy; lower receiver, along with pistol grip and shoulder stock, is manufactured as one piece from impact-resistant polymer. Akdal MKA 1919 semi-automatic shotgun utilizes detachable box magazines, each holding 5 rounds; an M16-style bolt stop and bolt release button are incorporated into the lower receiver. Manual safety also duplicates M16-style, being located on the left side of the receiver, above the pistol grip. Standard sights include front post, installed on the M16-style removable base, and a detachable M16A2-style carrying handle with built-in diopter sight.

[Ackbar00]

I was all set on buying one, till I held it..... It really felt cheap. Like, WalMart Toy gun cheap. Front sight I think is the same as the toy gun. And for what it cost, I just could not do it. Now, My TEC-12 (Also a Turkish Shotty), feels real solid. Can shoot in pump or Semi. Has been a lot of fun to shoot.

[AngryBMW]

I was all set on buying one, till I held it..... It really felt cheap. Like, WalMart Toy gun cheap. Front sight I think is the same as the toy gun. And for what it cost, I just could not do it. Now, My TEC-12 (Also a Turkish Shotty), feels real solid. Can shoot in pump or Semi. Has been a lot of fun to shoot.

 

Maybe I missed it but what does one of these cost?

-Marc

[RedRocket1647545505]

S12 > *

[Got-Boost?]

I was all set on buying one, till I held it..... It really felt cheap. Like, WalMart Toy gun cheap. Front sight I think is the same as the toy gun. And for what it cost, I just could not do it. Now, My TEC-12 (Also a Turkish Shotty), feels real solid. Can shoot in pump or Semi. Has been a lot of fun to shoot.

 

Which one? Kel-Tec KSG 12? Tell us a little about it, benefits, etc? $1k?

 

S12 > *

 

Info?

[RedRocket1647545505]

Saiga 12, i.e. AK Shotgun

 

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=0jtcYV5L-q8rvM&tbnid=3VJH8Ow-fCILvM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fworld.guns.ru%2Fshotgun%2Frus%2Fsaiga-12-e.html&ei=Kwk5Utf_MdH8yAHFv4HACQ&bvm=bv.52288139,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNEyhAk5wsmm1JjUc_Lg2p4tN67Lfg&ust=1379555861564204http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/images/8inchLage3w.jpg

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[Diamonds]

here's another. I have no experience with it... but it is an AR style SG

 

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/natmil-tk-uzkon-br-99-semi-auto-shotgun-detail.html?Itemid=0

[Radio Flyer1647545514]

S12 > *

 

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These are proven, no other choice for a 12ga tactical. Talk to Gun Envy and see if/ what they can do price wise if you get one without a pistol grip. It might be the best route to go money wise. I know they have one that's FA.

Edited September 18, 2013 by Radio Flyer

[1fast5gp]

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These are proven, no other choice for a 12ga tactical. Talk to Gun Envy and see if/ what they can do price wise if you get one without a pistol grip. It might be the best route to go money wise. I know they have one that's FA.

 

saigas are not meant to be Full Auto lol. They are fun till they over heat, then they stop working. I personally wouldn't spend the money on one, rather spend it on a M1 or M2 for a SA shotgun.

[Ackbar00]

Which one? Kel-Tec KSG 12? Tell us a little about it, benefits, etc? $1k?

 

 

Mine is a Tristar Tec-12. Cost $550ish new. Got more as a shoot anything I want to throw at it gun. Thought it would be a bit of a poor man's SPAZ shotgun, and I suppose it is. Once someone figures out how to put a mag extension on it, I will do the same. They allready have for the straight pump and semi versions without much trouble.

 

But, for a straight combat stlye Semi, a S12 is the way to go. I liked mine, but could never get it to shoot cheap brass without cycle issues.

 

A Mossberg 930 SPX might be a good option, but have never shot one.

[Ackbar00]

saigas are not meant to be Full Auto lol. They are fun till they over heat, then they stop working. I personally wouldn't spend the money on one, rather spend it on a M1 or M2 for a SA shotgun.

 

I shot a full auto one. We put over 200 rounds in it in less than 20 minutes. Never jamed.

[harmonda]

I had a custom S12 built a while back. Conversion, Folding stock, Adjustable gas, drum mag, Rail system, Door breacher, Eotech holo, etc...is beast. Puts a large volume of shot downrange in a hurry. Heavy mofo tho.

[Radio Flyer1647545514]

Meant to be FA, no, just stating GE can probably do some work on it if you get one without the pistol grip and save you some money vs. buying it from Atlantic.

[Shmaa]

There is no substitute

 

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[rl]

saigas are not meant to be Full Auto lol. They are fun till they over heat, then they stop working. I personally wouldn't spend the money on one, rather spend it on a M1 or M2 for a SA shotgun.

 

I have a saiga built by gun envy, I've run 3 back to back 20rd drums of 3" slugs through it at a rapid pace without issue. I've also shot multiple cases of shot in an afternoon without issue. Modified they are great guns.

[1fast5gp]

I have a saiga built by gun envy, I've run 3 back to back 20rd drums of 3" slugs through it at a rapid pace without issue. I've also shot multiple cases of shot in an afternoon without issue. Modified they are great guns.

 

Gun Envy builds great guns, their converted S12s are one of the best on the market. I am talking about the Machine gun shoots with their Full Auto Saiga 12s. They always bring 2 because they are very popular and after a few hundred rounds back to back to back, they over heat and having issues. With the M4, MP5, Ak74, 5.45 M4, F/A glock 17c, 1919, HK G3, they will run all day, just have to lube them up once in a while.