10phone2 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/us/california-leads-in-expanding-noncitizens-rights.html?hp&_r=0 At the rate they are going, what is the point of even having citizenship standards. Edited September 21, 2013 by 10phone2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Because current immigration laws work so well... It's like the war on drugs. A waste of time. Might as well stop scaring them into hiding when they're here and integrate them into useful, contributing citizens. It's going to happen anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 "some view the changes as an acknowledgment of who is living here and the need to require some public service of them. " How about pay income tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 and speak English Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 "some view the changes as an acknowledgment of who is living here and the need to require some public service of them. " How about pay income tax. Many of them have them have federal and state removed by those who pay them but are not able to collect an income tax return like the rest of us. and speak English Again, many of them do. You forget, not all immigrants are Mexicans. Speaking of which, given opportunity, many do strive to learn the language as it only furthers their success here. It seem you may assume, like many others, that all immigrants are uneducated, when in fact, many immigrants have had excellent educations in their homelands and have taken the time to learn English but "take what they can get" when they come here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10phone2 Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Why should they be given the same rights as legal immigrants that followed the rules and went through the legal process without lying and taking advantage of the system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Many of them have them have federal and state removed by those who pay them but are not able to collect an income tax return like the rest of us. Again, many of them do. You forget, not all immigrants are Mexicans. Speaking of which, given opportunity, many do strive to learn the language as it only furthers their success here. It seem you may assume, like many others, that all immigrants are uneducated, when in fact, many immigrants have had excellent educations in their homelands and have taken the time to learn English but "take what they can get" when they come here. You're the one assuming. Most illegal immigrants speak little or no English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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