STEVE-O Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Build will be a 6.0 lq4 with a 88mm turbo swapped into a 99 mustang chassis. car is origianlly a v6 car. So What is the best route to go to use a stock style tank and support say 1000rwhp on e85? Only option i really see is just to go with the on3 cobra tank and triple pump setup. Anyone else have a better idea or experience? Do I need the cobra tank or just the hat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 1000 wheel on E85 or Gas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 1000 wheel on E85 or Gas? E85, will have fast rails and around 100lb injectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 You are going to need more than 100 lb injectors. Magnafuel or Aeromotive Pro Pump. -10 to -12 Feed. -8 to each rail -6 to -8 from rails to regulator. -8 to -10 return. Glynns Sleeper Tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I was debating stepping up to 127lb or even a nice used set of 160 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 You are going to need more than 100 lb injectors. Magnafuel or Aeromotive Pro Pump. -10 to -12 Feed. -8 to each rail -6 to -8 from rails to regulator. -8 to -10 return. Glynns Sleeper Tank. any specific reason to go with Glynns Sleeper Tank over the on3 cobra tank setup? price is prety similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miller11386 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Magnafuel 4703. -10 feed, big return. Sump it from a cell or use a bolt in tank. Aftermarket regulator. and yes you probably need 2000cc injectors (200lb) You can get away with smaller high impedance injectors if you crank up the fuel pressure, however odds are you are going to wear stuff out prematurely. I would recommend 200lb injectors for 1000whp on e85. FYI I run 3 Aeromotive 340lph pumps and the car is out of pump at 1100whp on e90. -10 feed, 2000cc injectors and aeromotive regulator on a flex fuel setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 160s here over 1300 at the tire. Just got to have a pump to keep up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Magnafuel 4703. -10 feed, big return. Sump it from a cell or use a bolt in tank. Aftermarket regulator. and yes you probably need 2000cc injectors (200lb) You can get away with smaller high impedance injectors if you crank up the fuel pressure, however odds are you are going to wear stuff out prematurely. I would recommend 200lb injectors for 1000whp on e85. FYI I run 3 Aeromotive 340lph pumps and the car is out of pump at 1100whp on e90. -10 feed, 2000cc injectors and aeromotive regulator on a flex fuel setup. yes but i dont want to run a cell I want to run a stock tank and be able to use stock fuel level gauge. Also your only running 6 cylinders i will have 8 so that helps. 200lb will be overkill. Per the formula at stock pressure 53-54psi I should need 105lb roughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 160s here over 1300 at the tire. Just got to have a pump to keep up Thats why i was leaning twords the on3 triple 340 setup that includes, hat tank and everything already to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miller11386 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 160s here over 1300 at the tire. Just got to have a pump to keep up Exactly. You can probably get away with 100's but your base pressure will be ridiculously high. Weldon 2345a, magnafuel 4703 or go mechanical pump. Edit, Triple 340s are 100% out of pump at 1100whp reguardless of cylinder quantity lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 So, ignore the guy who has tuned more fords than I care to think about on which setup will work for fuel.....good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 So, ignore the guy who has tuned more fords than I care to think about on which setup will work for fuel.....good idea. Who was ignoring anyone? And only the tank will likely be ford it's a chevy motor so ????? And I replied with what advantage there was going with one company over another as the setup appears to be almost identical and prices very similar. My turbo kit will be from on3 so I have not been convinced that their fuel setup is also not the way to go was all. Any I will be goin to Brian when it is said and done for my tune so I do grately value his opinion on the fuel setup , not that other options obviously won't be looked Into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 whoever you buy injectors from just make sure you find people who are successfully running e85 without them fucking up... Big injectors are not all equal even the big price tag ones.. been there done that. On a stock PCM youll need high imp ones unless brian does not care you running a driver on some low imp ones. That will be your biggest hurdle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Was looking at these as far as injectors go: http://fuelinjectorconnection.com/shop/viewcategory.php?groupid=97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 FIC 160s were the shittiest injector ever... Brian initially had trouble getting them to idle and they also warrantied two sets for me and then told me that they would give me a set of bosch as soon as they were released. I sold the 2nd set they warrantied and ran far away from FIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 FIC 160s were the shittiest injector ever... Brian initially had trouble getting them to idle and they also warrantied two sets for me and then told me that they would give me a set of bosch as soon as they were released. I sold the 2nd set they warrantied and ran far away from FIC Good to know I have herd this is where to go. Glad I didn't pull the trigger on any yet. What ones do you run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 precision 160s they have been good to me. The FIC ones are modified CNG injectors and have an oring inside that does not jive with ethanol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 The only injector you'll ever need, http://injectordynamics.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 E85, will have fast rails and around 100lb injectors as stated-you need more. Depending on what they are I may be interested in buying from you. Would have to be drop in/high impedance though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 precision 160s they have been good to me. The FIC ones are modified CNG injectors and have an oring inside that does not jive with ethanol Low Impedance though correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 precision 160s they have been good to me. The FIC ones are modified CNG injectors and have an oring inside that does not jive with ethanol from what I can tell They dont make these anymore from their site? jp- I dont have any inkectors yet at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 the cng ones from fic were high imp... mine currently are low imp. Probably one of the best perks of aftermarket managment is running whatever injector you want without a separate driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 the cng ones from fic were high imp... mine currently are low imp. Probably one of the best perks of aftermarket managment is running whatever injector you want without a separate driver. Yeah that's why I asked- figured you were low. I want to stick with the OE Computer as long as possible. good to know though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Yeah that's why I asked- figured you were low. I want to stick with the OE Computer as long as possible. good to know though Same here, sounds like we are in the same boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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