5th Gen Camaro to GTO Judge conversion

[caseyctsv]

You've seen the Camaro to Trans Am conversion, which I think looks totally bad ass, but have you seen the Judge?

 

http://gearheads.org/camaro-morphs-into-pontiac-gto-the-judge/

 

I love it.

[o0n8]

looks like a cartoonish hotwheels and dat ass needs some work.

http://a38898d4011a160a051fb191.gearheads.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Pontiac-GTO-Camaro-2.png?e1be4f

[zeitgeist57]

Not a fan of how the hood looks. I think that color...while being true to one of the original Judge colors...doesn't look good on the modern Camaro body.

[Geeto67]

ugh.

 

I think hot wheels nailed the look of what a "modern" GTO should look like with their GT-03:

 

http://texashwcollectors.org/hwguide/images/2003/2003_033.jpg

 

I don't even think the 1999 Judge concept was that bad:

http://sitescars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Pontiac-GTO-Concept.jpg

 

Kidding aside, I think this retro crap needs to die. I love the GTO, and I think the "new" GTO they made from 04-06 was an excellent car and what the market needed but people have all this awful sentimentality about the old cars that kills anything that isn't "retro" inspired from carrying the name plate. They old cars are what they are and great looking but for god sakes leave them in the past.

 

I kinda wished they had called the G8 GXP the GTO and gone the 4 door route like the charger because that would have brought a whole new set of buyers to the car who want practical musclecars and given the thing a new direction. But pontiac is deader than disco so fuck it.

 

And another thing while I am up on this soap box - when they designed the "new GTO" how freaking hard would it have been to give it stacked headlights like the Caddy CTS-V? I mean they are the same freaking platform and nothing is more iconic than the 1965-67 stacked headlights of the GTO. I mean if you are going to write the nostalgia ticket for the car put your back into it GM, really.

 

 

TL; DR: this is a camaro for people whose nostalgia defies all boundaries of taste or good looks.

[zeitgeist57]

I understand your hatred with "retro" styling from the factory (because it inherently gets watered-down by the bureaucracy of the company) but I for one appreciate what the aftermarket is trying to do: take great modern auto platforms and restyle them into something that the car guys from the 50s-70s could only dream about having.

 

With CAD/CNC/3-D Printing coming so far down in price, I hope that more "modern" automotive customization comes out. Sure, this Judge is a bit ugly but it'll appeal to SOMEONE with the money (but no taste!) and other ideas can continue to turn into something great down the road.

[Geeto67]

I understand your hatred with "retro" styling from the factory (because it inherently gets watered-down by the bureaucracy of the company) but I for one appreciate what the aftermarket is trying to do: take great modern auto platforms and restyle them into something that the car guys from the 50s-70s could only dream about having.

 

With CAD/CNC/3-D Printing coming so far down in price, I hope that more "modern" automotive customization comes out. Sure, this Judge is a bit ugly but it'll appeal to SOMEONE with the money (but no taste!) and other ideas can continue to turn into something great down the road.

 

I see what you are saying clay but that doesn't mean I can't think it's ugly. Some things kind of make sense, but some things are just being forced - this feels forced.

 

oddly I don't mind the firebird conversions people do, and to be honest I even like the retro camaro and mustang body kits out there:

http://i43.tinypic.com/34gajao.jpg

 

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2011-2014-mustang-talk/129911d1305057388-retro-body-kit-question-07_retrobuiltboss302.jpg

 

http://www.sub5zero.com/sites/default/files/uploads/2010/11/retrobuilt_ford_mustang.jpg

 

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/dodge-daytona-and-plymouth-superbird-kits-from-hpp_100317488_m.jpg

 

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/highperf15/Cuda5.jpg

 

they just look like cartoon versions of the original cars which is kind of fun. I think that why they work and the 6T9 doesn't is because the base car was influenced by the original and the kit leverages that complete the look. but the design language of the GTO isn't the same as the modern camaro and trying to force it makes the new elements stand out from the old ones in a big way. I mean come on - look how awkward that rear end looks.

 

 

Are they car guys from the 50's-the 70's the ones buying these things? I mean you can have a pretty nice real 1969 GTO for about $30K which is less than the new camaro SS MSRP, let alone one of these "special editions" (last I checked one of these was around $125,000 from Trans Am Depot). I get that they are in the price demo if what I heard about price was right, but even at 650rwhp I can think of way cooler muscle car related things I can spend $125K on (like a big block c2 corvette or a brand new z06).

[HUMBLER1647545517]

Terrible, I wish it would die already. What's it been 5 years this thing has been around.

 

Also, I would love to have seen a production version of the 99 concept though.

[caseyctsv]

Hmmm I think it looks pretty cool - oh well. Not that I would do that to my Camaro but looks well done to me.

[PRD2BDF]

That challenger Daytona looks the best. I had to do a second look to see that it wasn't the real thing

[DSM1290]

That 'cuda is the shit!

[Green Bastard]

That 'cuda is the shit!

 

I was about to post this.

[TTQ B4U]

I don't mind the firebird conversions people do, and to be honest I even like the retro camaro and mustang body kits out there:

http://i43.tinypic.com/34gajao.jpg

 

I'm not feeling the GTO conversion....not on this platform. Looks cartoonish. The above however, I think looks great.

[zeitgeist57]

I love that 'Cuda if only for the fact that they somehow got the quarter-glass to roll down. Are we sure that isn't truly an older car?

[-Alex-]

I love that 'Cuda if only for the fact that they somehow got the quarter-glass to roll down. Are we sure that isn't truly an older car?

 

First time I scrolled down through, I thought "those all look like shit...except that 'Cuda" so I looked it over a few more times. I'm almost positive that's an actual '70-'74 Barracuda that has had some modern Challenger stuff blended in.

[Vulcan900]

I think its funny that I am fine with the GTO and Pontiac Firebird remakes, but can not stand what they did with the front of an old Camaro plastered onto a new one.

 

I wonder if it would be different if I owned and old GTO and not a camaro?

[Geeto67]

First time I scrolled down through, I thought "those all look like shit...except that 'Cuda" so I looked it over a few more times. I'm almost positive that's an actual '70-'74 Barracuda that has had some modern Challenger stuff blended in.

 

yeah Clay that was my bad, I copied the wrong URL and didn't notice. You have to admit that the cuda is pretty well tweaked that it passes for a modern one, almost.

 

Anyway here is the cuda pic I wanted to post:

 

http://www.amcarguide.com/wp-content/themes/arras-theme/library/timthumb.php?src=http://www.amcarguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mr-norm-cuda-header.jpg&w=630&h=250&zc=1

 

Here is one with a convertible conversion as well:

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2009/klm/2009-Mr-Norms-426-Hemi-Cuda-Convertible-Hood-Up-1280x960.jpg

 

 

while we are on the topic what do you guys think of the Doug Schramm/metalcrafters charger? 2 door conversion plus retro 1968 style front and rear:

 

http://www.amcarguide.com/wp-content/themes/arras-theme/library/timthumb.php?src=http://www.amcarguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Doug_schramm_custom_charger_header.jpg&w=630&h=250&zc=1

 

http://www.amcarguide.com/wp-content/gallery/doug_schramm_dodge_charger/14-2010-doug-schramm-dodge-charger-concept-jpg.jpg

 

http://www.amcarguide.com/wp-content/gallery/doug_schramm_dodge_charger/3-2010-doug-schramm-dodge-charger-concept-jpg.jpg

 

I think it works but probably because they redesigned the entire car from nose to tail to fit onto a charger chassis, they aren't just sticking a front and rear section on a stock roof.

 

 

I tend to look at the old camaro front on a new camaro as a life size "muscle Machine"

http://ebid.s3.amazonaws.com/upload_big/7/0/9/1354207568-19634-20.jpg