Mowgli1647545497 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 I like what the company is doing. The car? Meh. ...its ok looking. Much like the S, it looks like a Buick more than anything. But maybe its just me, on the 3, they really needed to do something, anything, with the front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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unfunnyryan Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 For the price... I'd say it's above average looking? If you need to drive long distance once a year just get a rental econobox. Otherwise, if these things are reliable (what are the wearable parts? brakes?) seems like a good value These are self driving right? Show me another $35k car that does that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buteo Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 With losses approaching a billion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 These are self driving right? Show me another $35k car that does that 2016 accord and civic both have this feature. http://www.auto123.com/en/car-reviews/2016-honda-accord-first-drive/61291/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 For a (reasonably) cheap all electric, it looks better than I thought they would. I still think they are going to go under....wonder when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 I love the car. Looking forward to Tesla making electric cars more mainstream: cheaper, longer range. I can see owning one at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 For a (reasonably) cheap all electric, it looks better than I thought they would. I still think they are going to go under....wonder when? if they can produce these and sell them for a profit, i don't see how they would go under with all the sales they are apparently making. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/03/people_are_waiting_in_line_to.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 if they can produce these and sell them for a profit, i don't see how they would go under with all the sales they are apparently making. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/03/people_are_waiting_in_line_to.html They apparently already have 130,000+ pre-orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledhead36 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 With losses approaching a billion. Got some data on that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 2016 accord and civic both have this feature. http://www.auto123.com/en/car-reviews/2016-honda-accord-first-drive/61291/ That just keeps you in the lane, the tesla will drive your drunk ass home by its self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFo Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 I'm more interested in the PowerWall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supplicium Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Tesla is only losing about 115 million a quarter which is nothing. They should eek out a operating profit soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0n8 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 I've thought about putting a deposit down but I realistically don't see them delivering until 2018 at the earliest and the front end is meh. It just looks cheap and uninspired. Rest of the car looks great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 I've thought about putting a deposit down but I realistically don't see them delivering until 2018 at the earliest and the front end is meh. It just looks cheap and uninspired. Rest of the car looks great The first cars in 2018, if you are toward the rear of the line now, you are looking much longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 215 miles range is bust for me. They really need to get these damn turds into the 320 mile range. Frustrating really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0n8 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 The first cars in 2018, if you are toward the rear of the line now, you are looking much longer. That was kinda my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 I want to believe, but the timing is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 1) Autopilot HARDWARE is on the $35k variant, but the software won't be unless you spring for more. So no, you're not getting an autonomous vehicle for $35k. Nor are autonomous vehicles approved for commercial sale yet (IIRC) so the Tesla system still requires your hands to be on the wheel. Therefore you can still get a DUI. 2) I can't believe anyone still believes what Elon Musk says when it comes to delivery dates. Has there ever been any evidence that he holds to a deadline AT ALL? No. I think 2019 will be the first deliveries. 3) It's not a bad looking car and I'm a Tesla hater. The interior, though, is simply awful. I like "clean" and spartan looks as much as anyone, but it literally looks like they slapped a computer monitor on a bench and said "yep...that's our interior design language". I want a car to be a nice place to sit, so hopefully the interior is competitive with other cars in the midsize luxury segment, but it won't be. 4) How much will "the one you want to buy" be? Will people still have a massive hardon after the $7500 tax credit runs out, which it appears it will rather quickly? 5) I'm very interested to see how the charging thing works out. A lot of people who will be attracted to this car are not homeowners or don't necessarily have the means to install a quick charger at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 http://i.imgur.com/ZEe4nuz.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 1) Autopilot HARDWARE is on the $35k variant, but the software won't be unless you spring for more. So no, you're not getting an autonomous vehicle for $35k. Nor are autonomous vehicles approved for commercial sale yet (IIRC) so the Tesla system still requires your hands to be on the wheel. Therefore you can still get a DUI. 2) I can't believe anyone still believes what Elon Musk says when it comes to delivery dates. Has there ever been any evidence that he holds to a deadline AT ALL? No. I think 2019 will be the first deliveries. 3) It's not a bad looking car and I'm a Tesla hater. The interior, though, is simply awful. I like "clean" and spartan looks as much as anyone, but it literally looks like they slapped a computer monitor on a bench and said "yep...that's our interior design language". I want a car to be a nice place to sit, so hopefully the interior is competitive with other cars in the midsize luxury segment, but it won't be. 4) How much will "the one you want to buy" be? Will people still have a massive hardon after the $7500 tax credit runs out, which it appears it will rather quickly? 5) I'm very interested to see how the charging thing works out. A lot of people who will be attracted to this car are not homeowners or don't necessarily have the means to install a quick charger at home. All this^ http://i.imgur.com/ZEe4nuz.jpg Perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 That just keeps you in the lane, the tesla will drive your drunk ass home by its self No, it won't. 1) Autopilot HARDWARE is on the $35k variant, but the software won't be unless you spring for more. So no, you're not getting an autonomous vehicle for $35k. Nor are autonomous vehicles approved for commercial sale yet (IIRC) so the Tesla system still requires your hands to be on the wheel. Therefore you can still get a DUI. 2) I can't believe anyone still believes what Elon Musk says when it comes to delivery dates. Has there ever been any evidence that he holds to a deadline AT ALL? No. I think 2019 will be the first deliveries. 3) It's not a bad looking car and I'm a Tesla hater. The interior, though, is simply awful. I like "clean" and spartan looks as much as anyone, but it literally looks like they slapped a computer monitor on a bench and said "yep...that's our interior design language". I want a car to be a nice place to sit, so hopefully the interior is competitive with other cars in the midsize luxury segment, but it won't be. 4) How much will "the one you want to buy" be? Will people still have a massive hardon after the $7500 tax credit runs out, which it appears it will rather quickly? 5) I'm very interested to see how the charging thing works out. A lot of people who will be attracted to this car are not homeowners or don't necessarily have the means to install a quick charger at home. ^ I couldn't have said it much better. They are equipping all vehicles with the hardware so they talk to the cloud and map the roads. The S's Autopilot is pretty good (the best currently available, with a bunch of safety concerns), and 90+% of the time it steers correctly, but we're not to the point where you should remove your hands and watch cat videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli1647545497 Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Autodriving is a non feature for me. I don't want it, will never pay for it. Love what Tesla is doing driving the market to nonpolluting transportation, but its not a product that appeals to me yet. Its far too "Apple" and besides, I just got done laying down a payment for a nice fast polluting codpiece of a car. In 5-10 years when the battery technology has matured, and these cars have more than a one-trick-pony (dig race to 100) performance profile and the design gets over the "less is more" bullshit, I'll look again. Unfortunately, non of these early adopter cars will be Hand-me-downs to kids or the really poor. The batteries won't last 10years, tops, with any appreciable range still on them. No amount of clever coding can overcome chemistry and physics. And expect the "free battery replacement for life" thing to go away soon, if it hasn't already. It certainly won't be an option for a high production low price commodity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 There are a few things keeping me from buying a tesla, but I may not be able to hold out much longer. I worry about the future of the company. Wisconsin does not have a dealership and I got no fucking time to go to Chicago if there are problems with the car. Aside from that:::: I don't care about range I love the fact you can seat 7 in the p90 whatever model I love the safety Awd The looks are good enough for me The simplicity of the car I wish it made more noise though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledhead36 Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 There are a few things keeping me from buying a tesla, but I may not be able to hold out much longer. I worry about the future of the company. Wisconsin does not have a dealership and I got no fucking time to go to Chicago if there are problems with the car. Aside from that:::: I don't care about range I love the fact you can seat 7 in the p90 whatever model I love the safety Awd The looks are good enough for me The simplicity of the car I wish it made more noise though You will most likely have a dealership in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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