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I didn’t find a thread already for HQ2?

 

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20181005/amazon-has-lots-of-questions-for-columbus-others-in-chase-for-hq2

 

Interesting details around the back-and-forth between Amazon and Columbus 2020 for planning details around Columbus’ offering for HQ2. Will be interesting to see.

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This.

 

I've heard nothing but bad things from those who live/lived around HQ1.

 

Such as?

 

At first I was all for it, a little notoriety for the city, it would be kinda "cool" I suppose. But after talking with a friend in corporate real estate who's adamantly opposed to it I'm finding it hard to see the benefits unless you're directly involved with Amazon or benefit financially somehow.

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The amazing part is how crooked this really is, think stadium deals are bad...I cant for the life of me understand why these cities strip away all dignity in hopes of becoming a temple worship ground for Bezos. In reality that is essentially the same equivalent of what is going on, bad bad bad policy. The left cries about wealth redistribution but then is completely cool with this non-sense and free ride while their ideologue rolls in billions and billions and its cool cause prime. Kind of mind bending really, we breakup Microsoft in 99 or 98 whatever, then allow Amazon where they are headed, again because muh prime doe.

 

But more people have prime then will vote in November, so I guess does it matter?

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I think the publicity around being a top 20 city is as much a viability validation for the city as anything. The country - if not parts of the global economy - are watching and listening.

 

With some friends/family in commercial real estate development, I can tell you just being at the top of the list but not winning (read: not having to deliver in spending money/resources to complete a project) is a very shiny silver medal.

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I think it would be good, just because of all the tech jobs and opportunities it would bring to Columbus.

 

Other than that, I don't buy from Amazon. Their website is kinda shit, Alexa, firestick and prime is overrated. AWS is pretty slick though.

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Such as?

 

At first I was all for it, a little notoriety for the city, it would be kinda "cool" I suppose. But after talking with a friend in corporate real estate who's adamantly opposed to it I'm finding it hard to see the benefits unless you're directly involved with Amazon or benefit financially somehow.

 

Real estate and home prices hit stupid amounts of money, so normal people can't buy a house and the traffic issues are the two biggest things that my co-worker told me about. That and the attitude around the whole Amazon Corp deal isn't great, then there's how they treat workers.

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  • 1 month later...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/13/amazon-announces-hq2-location.html

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2018/11/13/report-amazon-to-add-5-000-jobs-in-nashville.html

 

HQ2 - New York City, Crystal City VA (outside DC)

Distribution/Ops Center - Nashville, TN

 

This was an interesting selection process to witness from a business standpoint being a Columbus native, and I wish Columbus could've gotten the distribution center over any HQ2 offices not knowing that was on the table.

 

Good for Nashville. I cannot believe people are still adding to NYC...it's become such a sh!thole of a city to get around and maintain from an infrastructure and cost-of-living standpoint.

 

I was at the Short North last night for dinner...it's amazing to see the development going on right now. For 9-11pm on a Monday night there were plenty of people out and about. I'm not sad we missed Amazon but the city will show even better in the next couple of years with all the downtown-area development, new flights to the west coast. Still exciting times ahead for Columbus!

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I cannot believe people are still adding to NYC...it's become such a sh!thole of a city to get around and maintain from an infrastructure and cost-of-living standpoint.

 

And yet still not as bad as San Francisco and people are still adding to that too.

 

From a Headquarters standpoint NYC makes 100% sense. It gives amazon access to the many other large corporation headquarters, both international and domestic, plus it gives them access to a major port. An HQ doesn't need to make, fulfill, or ship anything - it needs to give a place for executives to park their butts and network with others. In NYC amazon executives and technology specialists get access to finance, media, fashion, advertising and art that they don't get anywhere else.

 

Same thing with Arlington VA - Amazon is going to park their political operations, lobbyists, some legal professionals, import and customs people, etc... in that one office so they are close to the government action and can hire from a well networked pool and maintain those close connections.

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I cannot believe people are still adding to NYC...it's become such a sh!thole of a city to get around and maintain from an infrastructure and cost-of-living standpoint.

 

I feel the same way. One of our fiber providers has had 2 different massive (>1 week outage) fiber cuts from steam pipe explosions in NYC in the last 3 months. STEAM PIPES. 2018.

 

Fuck NYC. Congested old fantasyland for millenials nowadays. Compared to modern large (asian) cities built up in the last 30 years with infrastructure to support the population, NYC looks like a rickety sack of shit bricks.

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Holy crapth! Our incentive package was more than NYC, VA and Nashville COMBINED?!?

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/11/13/maybe-it-wasnt-incentives-columbus-offered-amazon.html?ana=e_me_set1&s=newsletter&ed=2018-11-14&u=IGw%2BQupQDpXCE9vhBhveIg0ebf6f75&t=1542204246&j=85016011

 

I'm glad we didn't have to deliver on that promise.

 

1) We must REALLY suck, or

2) Amazon really, REALLY doesn't need the money, or

3) They were probably going to one of those cities anyway, and used some hype to gather pertinent demographic information from every major metropolitan area that submitted a package....for free. They are in the retail/tech/disruption business. :gabe: :gabe:

 

Well done, AMZN.

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1) We must REALLY suck, or

2) Amazon really, REALLY doesn't need the money, or

3) They were probably going to one of those cities anyway, and used some hype to gather pertinent demographic information from every major metropolitan area that submitted a package....for free. They are in the retail/tech/disruption business. :gabe: :gabe:

 

 

or

 

4) those other cities could deliver on something that Amazon needed that Columbus couldn't deliver. I mean, is it so hard to believe that another city would just be a better fit because of of the local industry?

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3) They were probably going to one of those cities anyway, and used some hype to gather pertinent demographic information from every major metropolitan area that submitted a package....for free. They are in the retail/tech/disruption business. :gabe: :gabe:

 

Well done, AMZN.

 

 

 

This times 100. Honestly Amazon knew what they were doing when they set out for this. They knew they would go to VA and NYC they just wanted a better deal. What better way to do it then to make others give the world because honestly its a win win for Amazon.

 

I guarantee Amazon picked VA so they could pickup some big time government contracts which required them to have direct access to the organization.

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This times 100. Honestly Amazon knew what they were doing when they set out for this. They knew they would go to VA and NYC they just wanted a better deal. What better way to do it then to make others give the world because honestly its a win win for Amazon.

 

I guarantee Amazon picked VA so they could pickup some big time government contracts which required them to have direct access to the organization.

Agree. It was simply a power play.

 

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or

 

4) those other cities could deliver on something that Amazon needed that Columbus couldn't deliver. I mean, is it so hard to believe that another city would just be a better fit because of of the local industry?

 

:lol: Take the blinders off.

 

Fastest growing city. Named #1 by Forbes for start-ups and business growth (IIRC). Major hub for transportation/shipping. The best perk of Cbus? It's not NYC.

 

Amazon sells and ships almost anything. How is NYC's or VA's LOCAL economy better than any other city as far as benefiting them?

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or

 

4) those other cities could deliver on something that Amazon needed that Columbus couldn't deliver. I mean, is it so hard to believe that another city would just be a better fit because of of the local industry?

 

Kerry, most people would agree with you. I'm not saying we could've done it better than NYC or VA because none of us know the true needs of the company, beyond land and workers. Amazon is a special business case with intense demands from being a disruptor in many different industries.

 

Quite frankly, I know about NYC from a business-ops standpoint, and everyone knows of the infrastructure issues: the demands being placed on the city to deliver on its promise to Amazon are going to be greater than anyone can predict.

 

Already hearing grumbles that the City and State won't pass funding to sufficiently repair subways...yet they gave almost $400MM cash to the Amazon bid.

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:lol: Take the blinders off.

 

Fastest growing city. Named #1 by Forbes for start-ups and business growth (IIRC). Major hub for transportation/shipping. The best perk of Cbus? It's not NYC.

 

Amazon sells and ships almost anything. How is NYC's or VA's LOCAL economy better than any other city as far as benefiting them?

 

HQ's aren't about logistics and delivery, they are about networking and management. NYC offers access to the upper mgmt of companies that cbus can't. VA offers access to government contracts, lobbyists, politicians, etc....that Cbus can't. Amazon built a fulfillment center here, because that is what the city did offer - a major hub for transportation and shipping (logistics).

 

Amazon isn't a startup, and while Columbus has a lot to offer a lot of other companies, in the end NYC is still the center of the financial, fashion, advertising, and Art and has a large employment pool of digital media and high technology people to draw from.

 

I read through the comments here and I hear are a bunch of jealous biddy's bitching about why Amazon took NYC and VA to the prom and how they look fat in that dress.

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I read through the comments here and I hear are a bunch of jealous biddy's bitching about why Amazon took NYC and VA to the prom and how they look fat in that dress.

 

Don't flatter yourself. I just wanted to say, "NYC blows," a few times and see how far you'd take it. Turns out others feel the same way as I do.

 

Besides, I look damn fine in this dress.

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