BuckeyeROC Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 PLOT TWIST So I put up the 01 4WD 4L60E I got with the engine for sale on FB, and I think I had more interest in that than anything I've ever put up for sale on the internet. I figured I would try to recoup some cost I have in the engine. Well, someone offered me a whole other engine for it. So now, I have an 01ish (I think) 5.3, with harness and ECU. I am undecided as to if I am going to transfer the springs and stuff over to that motor or just put it up for sale, but now I have two engines so there is that. That's cool, keep trading up until you get to an LS7 I'm not up on how the internals may be different, but is there any reason why you would NOT want the motor with more cubes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted May 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 That's cool, keep trading up until you get to an LS7 I'm not up on how the internals may be different, but is there any reason why you would NOT want the motor with more cubes? Other than having to do everything over again, not really lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 but is there any reason why you would NOT want the motor with more cubes? IIRC the extra cubes come from the increase in stroke (83mm vs 92mm for the 5.3). From what I have seen and discussed with people who run turbo LS motors, the short stroke is preferred because the crank is stronger (more journal overlap) and the rod ratio (short stroke long rod - 1.92 very close to the origina DZ302 in the '69 z/28) is better: less rod angle, less side loading of the piston, etc... I believe if you have the right cam, a valvetrain that can hold it, and heavy duty studs you can run the 4.8 all the way out to 7500 rpm. that's pretty good if you are planning to road race the car where you will spend most of your time at the upper RPM range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 The reground camshaft from Delta Camshaft arrived on Friday, and I got to work right away slamming it in. Jon Bodwell does excellent work and stands behind his products. Here is a quick look at the regrind itself, the "before" pictures are above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 I started with buying a new cam thrust plate, as it seals a pretty crucial oil passage that I've seen destroy a rebuilt motor with some real money spent on it where this one part was overlooked. Advanced Auto Parts luckily had one in stock. The one I pulled off had a pretty flat seal. I liberally applied assembly lube, and slid the cam back in. (This picture is just for this post, I applied a lot more and spread it around before sliding it all the way in. Had to keep my hands clean for the picture) Mike Luong recently did a cam in his vette, and replaced a bunch of stuff while he was in there. He was going to throw this stuff away, so I claimed it. I figured an 80k mile timing chain and oil pump was probably better than a 150k+ one, so I slammed them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 I bolted the oil pan and timing cover back down, and with that the engine is back right side up for the first time in a few weeks. This stuff will come back off when I replace the oil pan with the one from the 944 kit, but will keep it from bleeding more oil on my garage floor. Timing cover is is loosely attached too, as you need to use either a balancer or a special tool to center it on the crank. The reground cam requires slightly longer pushrods, these ones are like $40 on ebay and are the ones that Jon recommends for this regrind. Total cost for the regrind and these pushrods is still half of what a Sloppy Stage 2 usually goes for from Jegs/Summit/wherever. Again, its important to have perspective. We are talking a $200 motor here, not a several thousand dollar built engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 I got the rockers put back on a torqued down, then I started messing around with the intake for fun. So this requires some explanation. I originally purchased an LS3 intake from Scott because its the first one I saw for sale and a friend was selling it. This required me to purchase the Dirty Dingo adapter plates to adapt the square port intake to the cathedral port heads. Scott then had a regular LS1 intake with fuel rail and injectors after that, so I snatched that up and returned the adapter plates as they weren't needed. I'll be putting up the LS3 intake as well, as soon as I get around to it. Scott also had a set of Corvette coil covers for sale too, and I couldn't help but pick those up for a laugh. Also being a third gen intake, the truck throttle body bolted on, so I did that as well. I also cleaned off the water pump gaskets, and tried to get some of the grime off with a scraper. I still need to clean the area around the intake ports, but need to find a safe way to do that. Enjoy some fun shots before I finished for the weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Looks like a Corvette engine to me. :masturboy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Can you guys tell me if you are seeing the pictures? I don't quite understand why some people are having problems seeing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 No problems here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 No problems here Can you check out my for sale post and tell me if you can see those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Mike Luong recently did a cam in his vette, and replaced a bunch of stuff while he was in there. He was going to throw this stuff away, so I claimed it. I figured an 80k mile timing chain and oil pump was probably better than a 150k+ one, so I slammed them in. Now you can tell people you've got an OEM Z06 timing chain and oil pump! :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 There are apparently a bunch of broken pictures in this thread, I am sorry, I will work to clean them up. If I don't link pictures directly from my 944 Project Album on Google Photos apparently only I can see them. Good news for you guys is that you'll have some new-to-you pictures to look at Edit: Ok, I think I have everything fixed now - Posts 36, 37, 38, and 50 all had broken photos but should be fixed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10phone2 Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 sir great fucking progress. If someone doesn't like the broken photos, they can pee on bucks yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 sir great fucking progress. If someone doesn't like the broken photos, they can pee on bucks yard. Thanks! I still haven't completely solved the accessory problem yet nor do I have a nailed down solution for the harness, but hopefully in the next few weeks we can get together to drop the engine in. Now you can tell people you've got an OEM Z06 timing chain and oil pump! :gabe: It practically justifies the engine covers on it's own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Photos are showing correctly now. Thank you for the updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 I picked up the boxes containing the various parts of the kit from Sean's shop in order to see what I could attach to the engine or assemble ahead of time. Here is a look at the stuff that comes in the kit (some of it im not going to unwrap until its time to keep it all together): Pilot Bearing Adapter and Pilot Bearing Champ Pans JR106 Oil Pan with baffles, Pickup Tube, Wix 57060 Filter, ICT Billet Filter Block, Mahle Oil Pan Gasket Premade Adapter Fuel Lines with inline Corvette Fuel Filter/Regulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Generic Heater Control Valve (Presumably a Ford style one?) Vehicle Speed Sensor Kit Universal 36in Throttle Cable with Cable Stops Corvette Size Clutch disc with Porsche torque tube splines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Custom Headers with space on the driver side for the steering shaft, Felpro Header Gaskets (probably wont run these), new manifold bolts Hydroboost brake booster, fittings, hoeses, and mounting plate to attach to 944 firewall Engine Mount Uprights Porsche Torque tube to Corvette Bellhousing adapter with F body hydraulic throwout bearing assembly and remote bleeder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 The Torque tube adapter is really the star of the show here. In basically any junkyard LS swap, the most expensive part is almost always the transmission if you want manual and not automatic. Luckily, this adapter lets us keep the stock 944 transaxle, which gives us several upgrade paths down the road that can be quickly and easily swapped in the driveway (944 Turbo Transaxle, 968 6 speed, Audi 01E, etc). Like so many other things in this build, I got the bellhousing from Scott. I went ahead and attached it to the adapter so that its ready to go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Time to put on the oil pan! This is pretty straight forward. The kit comes with a decent Mahle oil pan gasket and new hardware. The only problem I ran in to was the bolts that go through the ICT Billet Oil Filter Block were too short, I just ended up robbing two bolts off of the old pan. I took a clean rag and cleaned all the surfaces for the gasket that were dirty, put a dab of RTV where the rear main seal meets the block, and put the shorter pickup tube on. Just for comparison, the stock truck pickup tube next to the new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Laid the pan on, and ran the bolts down with the electric impact. Use a wrench on the areas near the sump - 13 mm and 10 for the back small ones. I left the front two that go in the timing cover kind of loose since I haven't done that gasket yet and I need a balancer to center the timing cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeROC Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Did they give you an oil dipstick? Hydro-boost? Interesting. No room for vacuum, or is the Porsche hydro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Did they give you an oil dipstick? Hydro-boost? Interesting. No room for vacuum, or is the Porsche hydro? No room for the factory brake booster. They did not give me a dip stick, so idk what to do about that for now but ill figure something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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