jagr Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Negative Ghostrider. The pattern is full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 ok if i was the lead guys i woulda been pissed he was def. still riding in the racing line and held them up... punt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLovin Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 thats only when the buells get near............I heard buells were equipped with spring-loaded boxing gloves for lap traffic that don't know how to suck up their pride and GTFO of the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 they are to get out of the way when the blue flag is shown so that they don't mess up a battle for the lead. He did not get out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_racing_guy Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 From the 2009 AMA Pro Road Racing Rulebook: "Section 7: Race Rules And Procedures 7.14 Flags / Lights vii. Blue Flag: Indicates to a rider that they are about to be overtaken. Riders are advised to keep their line and allow the faster rider to pass. Riders disregarding this flag may be blackflagged at the discretion of AMA Pro Racing."So who interprets this as move out of the way??Not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 so you want to f up what is going on for the lead. I interpret it where it says allow the faster rider to pass and not do what he did and try to race with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curby Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 JRP failed at getting out of the way.my ¢.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 From the 2009 AMA Pro Road Racing Rulebook: "Section 7: Race Rules And Procedures 7.14 Flags / Lights vii. Blue Flag: Indicates to a rider that they are about to be overtaken. Riders are advised to keep their line and allow the faster rider to pass. Riders disregarding this flag may be blackflagged at the discretion of AMA Pro Racing."So who interprets this as move out of the way??Not meit doesnt say get out of faster riders line....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 ...I heard buells were equipped with spring-loaded boxing gloves for lap traffic that don't know how to suck up their pride and GTFO of the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anderson Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 From the 2009 AMA Pro Road Racing Rulebook: "Section 7: Race Rules And Procedures 7.14 Flags / Lights vii. Blue Flag: Indicates to a rider that they are about to be overtaken. Riders are advised to keep their line and allow the faster rider to pass. Riders disregarding this flag may be blackflagged at the discretion of AMA Pro Racing."So who interprets this as move out of the way??Not me Jrp made the right move and held his line. Al Luddington got suspended for his actions at mid-ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 so you want to f up what is going on for the lead. I interpret it where it says allow the faster rider to pass and not do what he did and try to race with them.JRP failed at getting out of the way.my ¢.02even tho they smell like cat piss i agree with this ppls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 even tho they smell like cat piss i agree with this pplsyou cant jump ship now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 if you're lap traffic and the leader are coming up behind you, why WOULDNT you just let them pass? what do you gain by trying to race them? other than not going another lap down i guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 no jumping ship i said he was wrong when i saw the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 if you're lap traffic and the leader are coming up behind you, why WOULDNT you just let them pass? what do you gain by trying to race them? other than not going another lap down i guess...i dont think he was racing them he was holding his line......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Maybe he thought he wasn't getting lapped and that he just had a head start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 i dont think he was racing them he was holding his line.........true, but IMO there is a difference between hold your line and making them WORK to pass you, and holding your line and letting the faster riders pass (which is what the rulebook says). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 true, but IMO there is a difference between hold your line and making them WORK to pass you, and holding your line and letting the faster riders pass (which is what the rulebook says).i know this is prob a bad decision on my part but im going to use nascar in exampe only cuz i love birstol and its the ultimate place to factor in lap traffic. you are going to see people still racing for position while getting lapped at the same time. the faster car has to adjust his line, not the lapped car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enenen Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 considering he was a lap down, his fastest pace should have still been slow enough for 1 and 2 to pass easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obesityrules Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 i guess its not a race anymore, its a '"show" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhaag Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 i get the whole point of 'professional courtesy', but.....considering he was a lap down, his fastest pace should have still been slow enough for 1 and 2 to pass easily.i agree, very much, with the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 i know this is prob a bad decision on my part but im going to use nascar in exampe only cuz i love birstol and its the ultimate place to factor in lap traffic. you are going to see people still racing for position while getting lapped at the same time. the faster car has to adjust his line, not the lapped car.yes, the faster car has to adjust his LINE, but the slower car needs to adjust their PACE to let the leaders pass. they want you to keep the same line so someone doesnt run into you trying to pass. he wasnt racing for any position there. he was between first and second. if there was another lap down rider that he was jostling for 15th or whatever with, then thats one thing... but its different in that situation with just the 3 of them. besides that, if that stuff went on for more than a couple laps at bristol, the lap down car would get punted into the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 yes, the faster car has to adjust his LINE, but the slower car needs to adjust their PACE to let the leaders pass. they want you to keep the same line so someone doesnt run into you trying to pass.he wasnt racing for any position there. he was between first and second. if there was another lap down rider that he was jostling for 15th or whatever with, then thats one thing... but its different in that situation with just the 3 of them. besides that, if that stuff went on for more than a couple laps at bristol, the lap down car would get punted into the wall.not really i have watched lapped cars run with the leaders the for 15 or more laps. esp if they are fighting for the lucky dog position.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 not really i have watched lapped cars run with the leaders the for 15 or more laps. esp if they are fighting for the lucky dog position....right, but i dont think AMA has a lucky dog. not yet anyway i understand wanting to stay on the lead lap in a nascar race, but this is a different animal IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 i guess its not a race anymore, its a '"show" That pissed me off the most. I guess to DMG, it's not racing anymore. It's just a "show", like reality TV. Just setting up the grid so there's the perfect ending. "We no longer care about racing, we just want a good show"Hmmm, sounds familiar. NASCAR anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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