OhioMarine Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Found a couple more good deals. The bikes and sellers seem to be legit, and Im getting serious. Both used hondas, one is an F4 other is an F4I. Should this be a deciding factor in my buying process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I am partial to carbs myself...FI is harder for a garage mechanic to work on for tuning purposes...My carbed 6R out powered a same year F4i which of course is injected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 IMAO.. .In My Asshole Opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin0469 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 id never buy a carb'ed bike again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I disagree. I'll work on a fuely bike and get it tuned before I can rip a set of carbs apart' date=' clean them, spend all day fiddling with various jets and needle positions and get a carbed bike to actually idle properly. I hate carbs.. Hrmm.. let me rephrase this. I don't mind carbs that are in good condition and operate as they should. What I do hate are cheap ass bike owners that think because their bike is carbed it should not cost money to tune it. There.. that's better. [/quote']And there you have it. Tuning a carbed bike is infinitely harder than tuning a carbed car. On the car, you have easy (being a relative word) access to to carbs, and have very little on top of them to disassemble to get to the inner workings so you can change out a jet or move the needle. On bikes, you have remove the side fairings, front fairings, drain the fuel, disconnect the fuel lines, take off the tank, take off the airbox, take off the carbs, rip them apart, make your change, put EVERYTHING back together, ride it, find more problems, rinse, repeat, wipe hands on pants.FI you can plug a laptop into a Power Commander and have all the data you need without turning a single screw. Not counting the initial start up cost of the Power Commander, or the extended cost of time and materials of DIY carb tuning, which one seems easier to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I disagree. I'll work on a fuely bike and get it tuned before I can rip a set of carbs apart' date=' clean them, spend all day fiddling with various jets and needle positions and get a carbed bike to actually idle properly. I hate carbs.. Hrmm.. let me rephrase this. I don't mind carbs that are in good condition and operate as they should. What I do hate are cheap ass bike owners that think because their bike is carbed it should not cost money to tune it. There.. that's better. [/quote']I'm the other way around. I'd rather pull the bank of carbs and tune them. I'll agree about your second statement though. Carbed bikes do a take a bit longer and it certainly isn't cheaper than FI.The problem with FI is to tune it you gotta spend another 300 bucks for a PC...Then have a laptop to tune. Then a backpack and go start doing some riding then come back look at data, adjust, repeat...Meh...6 of one, half dozen the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioMarine Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 IMAO.. Yes' date=' fuel injection is superior to carburetors but dollars are always a heavier bargaining chip in my mind. I'd have to see the difference in bike condition, dollars and all that to make a decision.[/quote']'99 F4, K&N filter, Repsol fairing, Flush mounted signals, vance and hines exhaust, stage 1 jet kit, and an LSL steering stabilizer, few other odds and ends, 16,000 miles.or'01 F4I, Stock as the day it was bought, 10,000 miles. Both same price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 IDK, I've done lots of carbs, but fuel injection is just way cool. If it's less parts and less weight, and does the job as good as or better, I'll take it. My first riding impression of fuel injection on a bike was: I'll never have carbs again. A good fuel injection system should produce both more power and better fuel economy, compared to carbs. Besides, find me a car sold now that has a carb on it. I don't think there are any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 F4i is Worth more.....Has less miles and will be easier and more friendly to mod and find parts for.Definately go for the F4i.....IMAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 F4i is Worth more.....Has less miles and will be easier and more friendly to mod and find parts for.Definately go for the F4i.....IMAO.I agree with this too...All things considered the F4i is probably the better deal...But my point above was that carbs shouldn't be a deal breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 man that gsxr i told you about sold,but i have another buddy with an 05r6 for around $3500 and its in GREAT shape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioMarine Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I never heard from him..Tell me more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I would love to be able to plug in a power commander and "rejet".... or just start her up in the morning and go without surging...But that being said, it's not worth 1K extra to me (just a fictional number) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioMarine Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 not up to date with the lingo.someone please tell me what IMAO is. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioMarine Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 In My Arrogant Opinion.Ohh!! and everything falls into place. thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anderson Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 fuel injection ftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioMarine Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 fuel injection ftwThats the feeling im starting to get... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleCock Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 f4i > f4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioMarine Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 f4i > f4whats your ride johnny?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightRider Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 whats your ride johnny??lol. Really...? Your mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweezel Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 FI, Start up and goCarb, Start up and g...stall. Start up and G...Stall. Start up and wait, stall. start up and go then stall. start up and wait some more, go. Stall. Start up and go, play with choke, stall. Replay with choke and Idle, go. Stall. Re adjust idle choke and restart. Go. Hopefully it's warm enough not to.. Damn it. Stall. Restart, adjust choke and ride. Forget that you left the choke on and wonder why it's idling at 3k rpms. Close choke. Ride.Ride one FI bike and you'll be sold. You couldn't GIVE me a carbed bike anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 FI for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djisle Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 FI all the way it's i will ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 you guys are really hatin on carbed bikes. mine fires up just fine never dies and will give any modern FI bike a run for its money. Anyone I've ever ridden with will tell you the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjachk08 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 id never buy a carb'ed bike again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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