Gump Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2009-10/universe-end-sooner-previously-thoughtcrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake1221 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 12/21/12? End of life as we know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 please let it end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I wonder why they dont credit the Mayans. They predicted 12-21-12 as the end of the world............over 3 thousands years ago. The Maya had an understanding of mathematics and understood the value of zero long before its discovery in the Eastern parts of the world. Their understanding of numbers and astronomy gave us the Mayan calendars of the Long and Short Counts. So why does this calendar attract so much attention now? The Mayan calendar ends on the Gregorian calendar date of December 21, 2012, which most people believe is the total end of civilization, as we know it, while others believe it is simply a change of enlightenment in this current time. Many theories have sprung up about this end date, ranging from the laughable, to the religious, to the scientific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 "The Universe has a lot of years left, it will last a long time." He said, as the stars started winking out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmagicglock Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 yeah I don't get it... less billions of years away than thought? Whats the margin of error on those calculations? And since the universe is infinitely big, can we really calculate all the energy consumption, available energy etc? And black holes give off heat from the friction of the molecules being consumed... so although its not the same physics as earth, that energy still isn't destroyed, only transferred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 So.... if everything is the same temperature we die..crap..we'll be off this rock flying around within 300 years..lookin for a new place to crash. I could see something disrupting our orbit and screwing up the gravity before anyhting else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 So.... if everything is the same temperature we die..crap..we'll be off this rock flying around within 300 years..looking for a new place to crash. I could see something disrupting our orbit and screwing up the gravity before anything else.Well, it gets difficult to describe... but... as entropy slows, so does time, or existence as a word that describes human observation of time. Or in effect, we wouldn't notice a thing happening. It would just go on forever trying to stop. Till eventually it did. And probably already has in part. And energy conserved, it would probably start over. Biggaboom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmagicglock Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 don't know if anyone saw this the other day, they created a black hole artificially using magnetics in a lab in China. I don't think its a true black hole but pretty neat none the less. Might work for cloaking technology someday (harry potter was way ahead of his time) http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/24234/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hue jass Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) I call this beauty the meat grinder.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpOL9m3V4Jo Edited October 16, 2009 by hue jass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 don't know if anyone saw this the other day, they created a black hole artificially using magnetics in a lab in China. I don't think its a true black hole but pretty neat none the less. Might work for cloaking technology someday (harry potter was way ahead of his time) http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/24234/True..no gravity involved, but very cool nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 You guys are blowin my mind....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Well, it gets difficult to describe... but... as entropy slows, so does time, or existence as a word that describes human observation of time. Or in effect, we wouldn't notice a thing happening. It would just go on forever trying to stop. Till eventually it did. And probably already has in part. And energy conserved, it would probably start over. Biggaboom.so we could just be in a universe backfire. Like when your motor backfires. Stuff happens, builds up builds up, bamb explodes, then dies back down. Just a backfire to us is a split second but the universe takes gazillions of years to die... Size is irrelevent, time is irrelevent. Kinda like a hummingbirds thought process has got to be a lot faster than ours. We could be a small as an electron flying around a atom to something or someone else i guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 i'm not concerned about the world ending.. i want zombies to come first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 It ends when it ends. Can't do much about black holes, if they are/will be the cause. Better just hope whatever supreme being you believe in exists and takes pity on your soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I wonder why they dont credit the Mayans. They predicted 12-21-12 as the end of the world............over 3 thousands years ago.That date is nothing other than the end of a cycle, or an era--if you will. Normally a new cycle would start, but they apparently hadn't worked far ahead enough to document the succeeding cycle. More pressing matters as the society was crumbling due to overpopulation/drought/diminished carrying capacity..."Doomsday" is mostly a western creation.Of course, I'm not buying anyone Christmas presents until 12-22-12--just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Of course, I'm not buying anyone Christmas presents until 12-22-12--just in case.good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jermattak Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 so you mean to tell me i wont make it to see my 142,598,857,847th birthday? :crying: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmo Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Just some glimpse from where these ideas come from.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAt_qLCDQkIhttp://www.bnl.gov/rhic/images.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman_343 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 I wonder why they dont credit the Mayans. They predicted 12-21-12 as the end of the world............over 3 thousands years ago.Why didn't the Mayans predict there own demise if they were such good "time keepers" and can predict things?? Don't believe the hype, its all bullshit.. nobody will be able to predict the end of time/man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Why didn't the Mayans predict there own demise if they were such good "time keepers" and can predict things?? What demise? The Maya are still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Video /\alternating gradiant synchatron??? I get it but i don't get it. Who pays for this crap? o wait..i'm sure we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman_343 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 What demise? The Maya are still around.Well.. maybe I should of used the word decline! They had a huge decline around the 9th century that almost wiped them out completely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Someone forgot to add in the effect of dark mater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Well.. maybe I should of used the word decline! They had a huge decline around the 9th century that almost wiped them out completely! Collapse is another good word. Who's to say they didn't see it coming? Probably just sat around arguing whether it was their own fault, or a natural climatic cycle. Once a civilization reaches the peak of what the land base can sustain, it doesn't take much to tip the balance. Say an extended drought, as suggested by the ecological record. Even if you see it coming, what does one do about it? Divide into smaller groups and leave the city centers to exploit available resources wherever they may be. Which is most likely how it played out...And the culture never recovered to what it once was before the arrival of the Spanish. Again, the idea of the 'end of the world' is a social/cultural phenomenon imported by the Europeans. As far as the 'Mayan prophesies' of the same--they are pretty much the invention of tabloids and history channel specials selling the end of the world. As far as the calendar is concerned...Keen astrological observation and complex mathematics. Pretty amazing for the time when one thinks about it...And you don't have to add a day every 4 years to keep it correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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