Meanie Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 So I got home from work tonight and according to the wife the house was about 48 degrees when she got home around 4:30p. By the time I got home it was up to about 60. Well the temp is no longer rising and when the furnace does kick on it's not getting hot and no warm air is coming out of the ducts. I am assuming the electronic ignitor is shot, but I'm not a heating an A/C specialist. Anyone work in that field?I'm out in the Columbus/Pataskala area. Shoot me a pm if you are. I'll check back often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 maybe a stupid question... is the pilot lit?Anyway, that dude is in hvac I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 It does look to be lit but it's an electronic ignitor, hence the reson I think the ignitor itself may be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Does the furnace attempt to run, but shuts off after like 20 seconds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 It will kick on an run for about 1 minute or 2 then shuts off. I can get it to kick on at anytime when messing with the thermostat. I don't believe it kicks on by itself at this time. I have to mess with the thermostat, but when it does kick on it runs and shuts off. The furnace does not get hot and the blower does not kick on. I called the company that I had out 2 years ago to work on the A/C and he said he could come out tonight, but with it holding at 60 and we have an electric blanket on the bed which is where my wife and daughter are sleeping at now. I told him to wait until tomorrow. Besides if someone on here does it I would rather them get the money then someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 What make, and approx age is it? I had one at my old house that would start and run, but then would shut down shortly after lit. It turns out that the flame detector was "dirty" and not detecting the flame. I put dirty in quotes because it didn't LOOK dirty. I pulled it, cleaned it with a scotch-brite pad, or fine sandpaper, and all was good. Not sure if that's your problem, but it's a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I do not work in this field, but had a similar issue with an electronic furnace. The furnace would attempt to run, but shut off.The issue was the flame sensor. I had to replace it on this furnace. I know they can be cleaned, but if it is cracked, it will need to be replaced.Not knowing the details of your furnace, brand/model/ approx. age, here is a link to some high level info that might be useful to you.http://homerepair.about.com/od/heatingcoolingrepair/ss/furn_electr_ign.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yeah I just read that and that is most likely the issue. Now if I could figure out where it is located to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 The flame sensor will be loacted usually right near the pilot light. Maybe you can get parts diagram from the furnace manufacture website, assuming you can determine the make/model of the furnace from a sticker right on the furnace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yeah there is a error LED on the circuit board. I removed the cover and held int he safety cut off switch so it would cycle. I can here the gas valve open and the hissing for a few seconds then it cuts off. After it finished its cycling and it wasn't able to ignite the LED starting blinking one time. The sticker says one blink is either a gas issue or the flame sensor. I am thinking it's the flame sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmh_sprint Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 What brand of furnace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) quick safety question... do you have a carbon monoxide detector in the house?If not, you should give a call to the fire department and let them know your furnace is acting funny and you'd like to make sure you don't have a carbon monoxide problem, they'll send someone out to test it... did it for me at my apartment without any question. Edited January 1, 2010 by Likwid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 quick safety question... do you have a carbon monoxide detector in the house?If not, you should give a call to the fire department and let them know your furnace is acting funny and you'd like to make sure you don't have a carbon monoxide problem, they'll send someone out to test it... did it for me at my apartment without any question.Good advise, better to be safe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 quick safety question... do you have a carbon monoxide detector in the house?If not, you should give a call to the fire department and let them know your furnace is acting funny and you'd like to make sure you don't have a carbon monoxide problem, they'll send someone out to test it... did it for me at my apartment without any question.Or just light a candle and leave it in front of of the furnace... No, not really, DON'T listen to my smartass comments... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Ok the brand is Goodman model GMP050-3No, I don't have a carbon monoxide detector in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Or just light a candle and leave it in front of of the furnace... No, not really, DON'T listen to my smartass comments... nice lol that would have went over well.the furnace isn't operational at this time. Since I have the panels removed it can't run and I won't be testing it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Ok the brand is Goodman model GMP050-3No, I don't have a carbon monoxide detector in the house.Chances are HIGH that it is the flame sensor. A goodman is what was in my old house, and from the research I did, that was a COMMON problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granda080 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Goodman sucks... I know I have one too. When mine went out it was the electronic ignitor switch. It had worn out do to constantly striking turning on and off. Good luck dealing with this quality POS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Ok the brand is Goodman model GMP050-3No, I don't have a carbon monoxide detector in the house.No joking, 100% serious here. Ring in the new year then run to the closest 24hr wal-mart and pick up a detector and put it near the furnace and/or where your all sleeping.Carbon Monoxide is really no joke and can really put a damper on your holidays... you're probably fine overnight, but it's better to be safe than sorry.Like I said, don't hesitate to call the non-emergency number in your area and ask to have a fireman check your carbon monoxide levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yeah no kidding, wish it would have went completely died about 2 years ago when I still had the warranty on everything. Well I guess I can pull the flame sensor and clean it and see if that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Ok, I found a pic showing a typical Goodman furnace burner.The flame sensor is on the right, just in front of the burner tube. At the other end, you can see the HSI (Hot Surface Ignitor) glowing to ignite the first burner tube.If I remember right, the one I had was the same, just opposite sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanie Posted January 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Nevermind, I do have one its actually about 6 feet from me in the hallway I just looked at it and it does say carbon monoxide sensor on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Here is a clip I found on Youtube showing the inside of the furnace.A few seconds into the video, there are labels that appear on the screen pointing out the location of the flame sensor. Looks like a tight fit inside the furnace.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQYSf3GCaE&feature=response_watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 You might also try hitting the switch to trick it into thinking the cover is on, and seeing that the HSI IS glowing when the thing starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 You know you are feeling old when I am still home on new years eve, not partying or drinking...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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