Hoblick Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 first what frame sliders are these??i need to replace this one obviously, and i rather get the replacement slider than get a whole new kitthis is just the part that is replaceable. it screws into the other part on the bike,second questionim gonna put new brake fluid in the viffer, i got some of the new dot 5.1 motul stuff... its for dot 3 & 4 do i need to full flush the brake system and clutch system with something like alcohol first, or can i just add this stuff in and push the old stuff out till its clear.didnt know if it would mix right, i know its a direct replacement for dot 4, but just making sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) I cant help on the frame sliders. As for the fluid, I would personally just drain out the fluid, add new fluid and rebleed. I could be wrong though. Edited January 23, 2010 by oldschoolsdime92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 the more i thought about that, i thought that probably wasnt good. It could introduce water to the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APCh8r Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Look like vortex frame sliders, and as others said with the fluid just flush and replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attackpainter Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Dont run frame sliders on a track bike. In the event of a crash frame sliders can dig deep into the dirt and cause the bike to flip rather than slide. Non of the teams that i paint for use sliders citing the above and that due to most mounting points depending on the crash they can alo do more frame damage than good ie: snapping motor mounts and snapping themselves leaving a broke bolt to extract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Dont run frame sliders on a track bike. In the event of a crash frame sliders can dig deep into the dirt and cause the bike to flip rather than slide. Non of the teams that i paint for use sliders citing the above and that due to most mounting points depending on the crash they can alo do more frame damage than good ie: snapping motor mounts and snapping themselves leaving a broke bolt to extractThat's what I have heard, they tend to do more damage than protection. Go with folding levers/pedals and such. Or just don't wreck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Or just don't wreck I'm trying that one out! It's working pretty well so far! I know that it's bound to happen one day, though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Here is some help on bleeding after you drain out your old fluid.http://tinyurl.com/yjqwcv5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hue jass Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 im gonna put new brake fluid in the viffer, i got some of the new dot 5.1 motul stuff... its for dot 3 & 4 do i need to full flush the brake system and clutch system with something like alcohol first, or can i just add this stuff in and push the old stuff out till its clear.didnt know if it would mix right, i know its a direct replacement for dot 4, but just making sure I did the same thing on mine. I got DOT 3&4 fluid. It's actually DOT 4 fluid but they'd lose some sales if someone passed it up because they needed DOT 3 fluid. They're just letting you know that it's OK to put 4 in 3 systems. All the same, flush the old out with the new thoroughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I like the Racerailz over frame sliders. Switching to them as soon as I get some extra cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earache Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Send me your fucked up slider and I'll make a replacement for you - no charge.I use Delrin, same stuff as the OEM's use, and have made 100's of them before.PM me for address, etc.Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 That's awesome of you. Thanks for helping a dude out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 They look like vortex sliders. Drain complete brake system. Take calipers off bike and push pistons all the way in and let the old fluid drip out, Us ALL new brake fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 got the brakes and clutch flushed and filled.. boy did they need it!Erache ill be Pming you about the sliders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 i use underbody sliders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornSinner Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 i use underbody sliders.????? What ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 +1 on the brake stuff, looks like it all worked out. I HIGHLY recommend picking up some speedbleeders at IP, they are about 15 bucks or so for a pair but it takes all the guesswork out of bleeding the brake system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornSinner Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 +1 on the speedbleeders..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 +1 on the brake stuff, looks like it all worked out. I HIGHLY recommend picking up some speedbleeders at IP, they are about 15 bucks or so for a pair but it takes all the guesswork out of bleeding the brake system.i never have had trouble bleeding brakes before. and didnt have a problem now, i was jsut curious about the new fluid type vs. old and if i should evacuate the system comlpetely of the dot 4 or not before putting in the 5.1after some reading though its no big deal of not evacuating the lines of the old fluid first, jsut push in new and push out old.. just like i did with the other bikes i have done.i was jsut a little concerned with the diferent fluid, but turns out its the same stuff just a better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I use a pneumatic bleeder. Hook it up to the bleeder screw. Makes a whole bike a 5 minute job. Glad you got it taken care of man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I use a pneumatic bleeder. Hook it up to the bleeder screw. Makes a whole bike a 5 minute job. Glad you got it taken care of man.i have a mighty vac, but i had my buddy there and we were just hanging out, so i never broke that thing out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSPELLIS Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Just make sure its not the Dot 5 silicone version, that cannot be mixed. As far as your DOT 5.1, have to make sure there is not water or moisture, as this can effect the performance (kinda like water and vinegar). I am only going from the automotive world in brake fluid, Im sure motorcycle hydraulics are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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