Cheech Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Aborting babies will be deemed a medical procedure because the child has a birth defect that will cost the tax payers too much money over the child’s lifetime. That's the workaround to the executive order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 This whole process would probably be a lot easier if more people than just Duane would read the bill. Most of the comments in this thread are speculation of things that aren't even contained in the legislation. But then again, it would kill the entertainment that is this thread...that's what I'm saying, this can keep me entertained for days. It's like this is the Glenn Back tryouts or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Aborting babies will be deemed a medical procedure because the child has a birth defect that will cost the tax payers too much money over the child’s lifetime. That's the workaround to the executive order.I hate the idea of abortion, but I acknowledge that 1) it's going to happen whether it's legal or not, and 2) some people don't have the same options I do as far as finances, family support etc.to be brutal, I'd rather pay for a child to be aborted than pay for that child (and it's mother?) to be on welfare and in social programs their entire lives. the government SHOULD be looking at such things from a strictly financial perspective. Cost-cutting measures are a good thing, even when I don't necessarily like how they're accomplished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I hate the idea of abortion, but I acknowledge that 1) it's going to happen whether it's legal or not, and 2) some people don't have the same options I do as far as finances, family support etc.to be brutal, I'd rather pay for a child to be aborted than pay for that child (and it's mother?) to be on welfare and in social programs their entire lives. the government SHOULD be looking at such things from a strictly financial perspective. Cost-cutting measures are a good thing, even when I don't necessarily like how they're accomplished. I agree old people who are no longer productive members of society and are just draining the social security and healthcare budgets should be refused treatment so they can leave us sooner. Old people and retards cost us too much money to keep alive, we will never be able to balance the budget with these expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 This whole process would probably be a lot easier if more people than just Duane would read the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Time to jump in the ring: 1) the posts comparing health ins. to car ins....all I'm going to say is the great state of Ohio makes everyone pay something called Uninsured Motorist which I didn't see anyone mention. So they kind of have a leg up on healthcare there from a state level and I'm paying for the day when some retard isn't insured and hits me. 2) Working off of Red and UP's comments: Let's stop for a moment and take money out of the equation and let's roll the clock back a couple year.....thousand years say. During the day's of the caveman, everyone was independent but worked as a group for the better of the whole. If some cave whore spit out a one armed and one legged cave baby because she was smoking leaves soaked in tar from a pit, do you think the rest of group is going to help her? Hell no. So why should the group be forced to care for the cave whore's tar baby? They probably didn't and more than likely stuffed it in a hole somewhere for T-rex to find.Point is don't force health insurance on me, regulate the damn insurance companies, hospital's and Dr's who created this disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Tar babies should die! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Tar babies should die!ummmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangBruhY Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 i pay no premiums and i have no choices....so im good.That's what you think! Just wait... It's going to be fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 So... is the sky still falling? Or... what are we doing in this thread now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Tar babies should die!ummmmmmmIts cool, He's black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gen3flygirl Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I hate the idea of abortion, but I acknowledge that 1) it's going to happen whether it's legal or not, and 2) some people don't have the same options I do as far as finances, family support etc.to be brutal, I'd rather pay for a child to be aborted than pay for that child (and it's mother?) to be on welfare and in social programs their entire lifeI know what your getting for Christmas....... coat hangers!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I know what your getting for Christmas....... coat hangers!!!!oh I like you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Its cool, He's black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerik Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 INTERMISSION:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9upTLWRZTfw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOW Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 just eliminating the insurance companies ability to cancel coverage on someone for "maxing out" their benefit dollars makes this bill worth it's weight in gold. Nothing like being treated for terminal cancer and living longer than the diagnosed 6months, just to get a phone call form the insurance folks telling you that you're now being dropped. Not a fun phone call for the person or their family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangBruhY Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 See... I thought it was my constitutional right to have the freedom to choose what healthcare I want. I guess our freedoms are diminishing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVTPilot Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 See... I thought it was my constitutional right to have the freedom to choose what healthcare I want. I guess our freedoms are diminishing?And if you ask the omnipotent Nancy Pelosi, healthcare is a right, not a privilege. Since its a right, the gub'mint MUST provide it to you in a form no doubt suited to your needs. And if not, well, they'll tell you what your needs are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I'm sending a letter to the 'gub'mint' in support of RVT's request under the new healthcare bill to have a sex change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 If you are born in the US, from US citizens, what are the requirements to be/stay a US citizen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 since you guys are actually reading this crap that we had no say over, can someone elaborate on how this affects small businesses with less than 50 people in the company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 If you are born in the US, from US citizens, what are the requirements to be/stay a US citizen?nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I'm actually kinda disappointed in the lack of substantive conversation about the actual bill and heavy focus on automotive analogies. Was hoping to pick up something about what was in this thing without reading 2400+ pages (you know, like most of the people involved in voting for or against it).When do ALL the changes take effect, not just the no insurance penalties?Other than do abortions get funded, no insurance penalties, what else is in there? Did they take the public option out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 ^ cheech posted this on page 3http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1914020220100319 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I never thought to use a motorcycle board to get substantive information about my countries largest social program to date. I should check in here more often if you guys are able to help me understand things better. While I’m here what is the best age to apply for social security? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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