YSR_Racer_99 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39516346/ns/us_news-life/Smacks of what may await us, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Privatization is the only way to go for services like the fire department. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdubyah Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 So, what would have happened if there were people inside? Just to add some food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted October 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I bet the fire department got a lot of payments over the next couple of days. Dunno about the "people inside" thing. I would hope that compassion/ sense of responsibility would override the $75 fee. "Rules is rules" can only go so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 You do enough to save those inside, then stop fighting the fire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 wow fucked up...they need to change thay policy...sure the $75 fee a year is fine, but i think they should make it more like insurance...if the people havent paid the fee, still put out the fire and then just bill them a total amount - how much it cost to pay all the fire fighters, gas, water cost, whatever... not just let it burn down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Paid fire protection has been around since Fire Dept's were started in early Rome. This is nothing new and very common in rural areas. Running a FD is not cheap and we have a very hard time collecting from ins companies. Fire levies are what pays the bills and they are hard to pass in rural communities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Flat $75 a year, the "pay for protection" is done in areas where there are no fire levies and taxes do not fund the FD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Yeah, I really don't see anything wrong here. They chose not to pay the fee to have fire protection. If I don't pay my electric bill and it gets turned off, I'm not going to be whining and crying about it. Pay your bills and you won't have a problem. It's $75/yr. I bet they pay more than that per month for car insurance, cell phone, etc. Now they're going to bitch and whine about not getting a service they didn't pay for. Come on, seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Then fuck him for being an idiot. I pay more than that for garbage removal every year. Of course' date=' I would have a different opinion if there were actual people inside. You don't let folks burn to death over $75[/b'].Agreed. If there are lives at risk, do whatever it takes to help. Other than that, they were too cheap to pay the $75 fee. And odds are if they had insurance (home owners or renters), it won't pay out since they didn't pay the fee for the fire department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Then fuck him for being an idiot. I pay more than that for garbage removal every year. Of course' date=' I would have a different opinion if there were actual people inside. You don't let folks burn to death over $75.[/quote'] If lives are involved SOP's usually mandate enough fire suppression for a safe rescue, then let it burn when we are out.In earlier times though it didn't matter if lives were involved or not, no pay no service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMMW Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Someone's going to be pissed when the FD doesn't show up because of an accounting error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdubyah Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Agreed. If there are lives at risk, do whatever it takes to help. Other than that, they were too cheap to pay the $75 fee. And odds are if they had insurance (home owners or renters), it won't pay out since they didn't pay the fee for the fire department.Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 If lives are involved SOP's usually mandate enough fire suppression for a safe rescue, then let it burn when we are out.In earlier times though it didn't matter if lives were involved or not, no pay no service.ha I called it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggO Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 wow fucked up...they need to change they policy...sure the $75 fee a year is fine, but i think they should make it more like insurance...if the people haven't paid the fee, still put out the fire and then just bill them a total amount - how much it cost to pay all the fire fighters, gas, water cost, whatever... not just let it burn downI agree.Some cities also fine there residence for false alarms. I had a customer in Cleveland set off her monitored smoke detectors, and the fire department was dispatched. She was fixing breakfast and burnt the bacon. She was fined $500 for them coming to her house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I agree.Some cities also fine there residence for false alarms. I had a customer in Cleveland set off her monitored smoke detectors, and the fire department was dispatched. She was fixing breakfast and burnt the bacon. She was fined $500 for them coming to her house.fuck that...glad our smoke detectors just make noise instead of alert the firefighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 ha I called it! Still feeling like a after reading about that Ct. family that was attacked by two f-tard pieces of sh!t. Sorry. fuck that...glad our smoke detectors just make noise instead of alert the firefightersWon't do much good if you're out of town. Jus' sayin'. Mine are wired into the security system - they call me first, if no answer or I tell 'em send the cops/fire/emt, then they send help.While I'm feeling snarky: This is Tea party America in action... I find this story very intriguing. Push finally came to shove -- I'm pretty excited to see the legal battle on this issue play out.Firefighters Watch as Tennesee Home Burns to the Ground 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Won't do much good if you're out of town. Jus' sayin'. Mine are wired into the security system - they call me first, if no answer or I tell 'em send the cops/fire/emt, then they send help.doesnt matter...thats what insurance is for....if i got fined $500 every time it went off, ide rack up enough money in just paying off false alarms as i would to replace any small items insurance didnt cover lol....i burn shit on the stove at least 3-4 times a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdubyah Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 So what you are saying is you can't cook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 He's sayin his girl has the pimp hand and tells him when to get in the kitchen and make her a sammich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 So what you are saying is you can't cook? aint that what women are for?and usually, its from shit spilling in the oven and getting baked on, open the oven door and the smoke bellows out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Don't attempt cooking when you're drunk. That's what Le Chateau Blanc is for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) I'm kinda shocked at this thread and the opinions within it, especially knowing how many of you are opposed to taxes, social safety nets, and the "liberalization" of America.Where are the hardcore preachers of capitalism and personal responsibility/accountability now? Edited October 6, 2010 by JRMMiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I'm kinda shocked at this thread and the opinions within it, especially knowing how many of you are opposed to taxes, social safety nets, and the "liberalization" of America.Where are the hardcore preachers of capitalism and personal responsibility/accountability now?ummmm, I think you're looking at it backwards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I'm not following you.There was a choice to pay $75 or not, choice was made -- so consequences are what they are. Why have all these other stipulations of "Well, if people were inside then..." or "Trapped pets" or whatever? You pay the $75 or not. No, "well, just charge them whatever afterward" -- no no no, thats not how it works. What if they can't pay it? Someone ("us") is still going to have to foot that bill... this is almost identical to all the healthcare debates on here. You don't want to pay for it ahead of time (via insurance or taxes or fees), then you get no treatment -- yet in the healthcare field, people are treated regardless of their ability to pay and it's broken the system. Why don't the same rules apply here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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