scottb Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well, almost any range time is better then no time. But I learned a few things. My Hi Power is still broke. Still does not extractor the spend round. Second thing, a .38 S&W bodyguard has some muzzle flip. The laser was an eye opener as you think you are holding the gun lined up on target, but you see the laser dance around. Third and fourth thing, after borrowing from a friend a Glock 17 and Springfield XDM, I was not shooting accurately. Not sure why. Probably not too acustom to the gun since they are not mine? Shots were all over the place. Some high, some low, some left and some right. I dont think I was flinching or preparing for the "bang" of the shot.Fifth thing, the Buckman Camper .22LR pistol rocks!! I was accurate with this one.So, my next 9mm might be a Taraus PT 92 or whatever the PT 809, a CZ something, or the Ruger SR9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Definitely try more before buying. Maybe rent a few. Personally, I find lasers distracting while I'm shooting. I find myself more concerned about where the light is than where the sights are aligning. Granted I've had extraction problems with Hi-Powers myself, but how much shooting experience do you have? An auto like the hi-power needs a firm platform of resistance to function correctly. Are your elbows tight? Wrists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Well, almost any range time is better then no time. But I learned a few things. My Hi Power is still broke. Still does not extractor the spend round. Second thing, a .38 S&W bodyguard has some muzzle flip. The laser was an eye opener as you think you are holding the gun lined up on target, but you see the laser dance around. Third and fourth thing, after borrowing from a friend a Glock 17 and Springfield XDM, I was not shooting accurately. Not sure why. Probably not too acustom to the gun since they are not mine? Shots were all over the place. Some high, some low, some left and some right. I dont think I was flinching or preparing for the "bang" of the shot.Fifth thing, the Buckman Camper .22LR pistol rocks!! I was accurate with this one.So, my next 9mm might be a Taraus PT 92 or whatever the PT 809, a CZ something, or the Ruger SR9Thanks for the range reportI'm not an expert but It sounds like you might be anticipating the shot, two things that might help you if that's the case. I had an instructor once load a dummy round un unbeknown to me and I jerked like a 15 year old with a playboy.The second thing to do is to film yourself. if your not flinching then perhaps your stance is off Edited January 24, 2011 by eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 The laser was distracting, I did focus on the laser, not the sights.I can see IF needed, that the laser might help in a defensive situation where you could not line up the sights, like reach over a stairwell, but that is proably more hollywood then reality. I am aware of getting a good grip, so i dont think it is a stance issue. I did get my Hi power used, so i am thinking it was an existing problem, I will probably have the extractor and spring replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Lasers take time to get use to. If you're any good and you ignore the laser and aim with sights you will notice the laser holding steady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Told ya the 38 flipped a bit. I was having a good day. My 10 year old shot very well also. Let him shoot my buckmark(scott did also) and my 9mm for one round. Proud poppa today as I think my kid is getting the hang of shooting. Edited January 24, 2011 by speedytriple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Speedy, I did not want to throw ya under the bus, but can you post your target and then your sons' target?.......lol I dont want to make excuses, but I did have the last range stall, and the single target support string was causing the targets to dance around a bit as the heat/ air exchanger was going full force.I like the rifles and shotguns better and also shooting outside.My friend is not really liking his new XDM.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SnOmAn| Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I have a laser on my bodyguard .380 and I found it dancing around a lot too. I ended up turning it off and just sight lining it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I did ok not so good with the .38 again gonna take somemore time to get use to the wheel gun. did good with my 9mm though. My son was shooting pretty good with his .22lr. Shot at 75ft. with a rossi break action 22lr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I loaded your Buckmark Mag with the bulk Winchester Dynapoint ammo when i returned it to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Funny I had a jam with it when you gave it back to me? loaded it with blazer and went thru 6-7 mags with out a hang up? You still like the buck mark don't ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Wow on the jam, that was the ammo we used when you first got the Buckmark. I was going to bring the Blazer ammo, but was not sure your Buckman would like it, I should have asked. I still have about 50 CCI .22LR left.I do like the Buckmark, next time Fin has it on sale, I think I will pick one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 for 75 feet those targets look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Just saw the new camper it has a silver finish and the tabs on the rear of the action that make it easier to pull the action back. I have shot the shot the dyna before and had good luck with them so ? on the jam. I am happy with all my guns right now just need to get use to the .38 Still having issues with the groups on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Gump for a 10 year old I was a proud poppa today. He shot very well today. Told him in the spring/summer we will go hunting for some small game now that I know he can hold a better group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well, almost any range time is better then no time. But I learned a few things. My Hi Power is still broke. Still does not extractor the spend round. Second thing, a .38 S&W bodyguard has some muzzle flip. The laser was an eye opener as you think you are holding the gun lined up on target, but you see the laser dance around. Third and fourth thing, after borrowing from a friend a Glock 17 and Springfield XDM, I was not shooting accurately. Not sure why. Probably not too acustom to the gun since they are not mine? Shots were all over the place. Some high, some low, some left and some right. I dont think I was flinching or preparing for the "bang" of the shot.Fifth thing, the Buckman Camper .22LR pistol rocks!! I was accurate with this one.So, my next 9mm might be a Taraus PT 92 or whatever the PT 809, a CZ something, or the Ruger SR9Good to hear you got some range time in, that is never a bad thing. As for your shot's being off, you need to find your shooting position. Make sure you have a proper, balanced stance. Steady your breathing. I aim with both eyes open. Helps me to see the sights and the target. Plus being left eye dominant and right handed, using one eyes really screws me up. So check which eye dominant you are and adjust. Don't hold your breath, this will make you shake. The best time to squeeze the trigger, not jerk it, is right when you exhale. There is a natural pause in your breath and that is when you are the most steady. Like someone said, tape yourself if you can, or have a spotter watch you to coach. I'm usually off with other people's firearms until I've shot a little with them. Different ergonomics, sights and trigger pulls will throw anyone off. It's interesting you say you were dead on with the .22 but off with the larger calibers. Sounds like you are anticipating the shots or your grip/stance needs improvement. With the .22 there is less recoil and noise so you might be relaxing and not trying to over control the firearm. Just my .02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat0403 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 If your friend doesn't like his XDM he can always give it to me! I love mine. I feel like there is no better all round pistol out there. Put probably 300 round minimum through it and never had a jam or feed issue, consistanly accurate and easy to maintian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Speedy, the top target yours and the bottom your sons? Both are very good, nice grouping on the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 If your friend doesn't like his XDM he can always give it to me! I love mine. I feel like there is no better all round pistol out there. Put probably 300 round minimum through it and never had a jam or feed issue, consistanly accurate and easy to maintian.Wow, you are alive. You gonna come shoot with us sometime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 nope both my boys shooting I did fire three shots to make sure his sights were still on. He shot very well, the bottom he shot free hand the top was shot off a rolled up towel as a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 nope both my boys shooting I did fire three shots to make sure his sights were still on. He shot very well, the bottom he shot free hand the top was shot off a rolled up towel as a rest.Not bad at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Like I said I was proud shot with a rossi single shot youth model .22lr with a 4x bushnell scope on it. He is my little trooper came home and helped me clean all the guns(three handuns and 1 rifle) He takes after his dad of corse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Like I said I was proud shot with a rossi single shot youth model .22lr with a 4x bushnell scope on it. He is my little trooper came home and helped me clean all the guns(three handuns and 1 rifle) He takes after his dad of corse.Cleaning is very important. You can't have fun and not take care of your firearms. Good job teaching him responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 than* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 As soon as we got home he asked if he could help clean his gun. I went through the steps and helped him make sure his gun was clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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