redkow97 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 So I was driving to work today, and actually turned OFF my headlights on the way in. That alone was enough to give me hope of nicer weather to come.Anyway, my street bike is 99% sold, and now I'm getting a hankering for a little street scooter to bomb around on, and let the wife play with so she doesn't lose all the skill she gained in the MSF course.I'm thinking someone's old, beat-up ninja 250 fits the bill nicely. I want to spend less than $500, so i'd count on rashed fairings, and plan to remove them anyway. The thought is to remove as much weight as possible, make it look semi rat-rod-ish, and then gear it down -1/+3 so it tops out around 80mph, but is lively fun around town. At most, I'd commute the 12 miles to work, so long highway rides aren't a concern.Is there any way to make an EX250 look cool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Ghost ride it off the top of an 18 story building and film it.That'd be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Leave the fairings, add stickers. They'll make it faster, too. Seriously, street fighter it. But it'll turn into a money pit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Is there any way to make an EX250 look cool?Put me on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 yea just streetfighter it would be my suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I remember back in 2008 an ex female member here was on her new 250 while rushing to Columbus. We were at a high cruising speed on US35 and we toned it down because with stock gearing she was hitting the limiter at 90mph she was saying. I don't know how true that is, but if it is, 80mph on -1/+3 old geared $500 250 sounds unattainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I remember back in 2008 an ex female member here was on her new 250 while rushing to Columbus. We were at a high cruising speed on US35 and we toned it down because with stock gearing she was hitting the limiter at 90mph she was saying. I don't know how true that is, but if it is, 80mph on -1/+3 old geared $500 250 sounds unattainable.EX250's don't have a rev limiter, so I'm going to have to call BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I remember back in 2008 an ex female member here was on her new 250 while rushing to Columbus. We were at a high cruising speed on US35 and we toned it down because with stock gearing she was hitting the limiter at 90mph she was saying. I don't know how true that is, but if it is, 80mph on -1/+3 old geared $500 250 sounds unattainable.I can run mine at around 85, but there's not much left in it up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 -1 in the front is plenty on a small displacement bike, and easy to change back.If it's 16T going to 15T, that's 1/16 less top end. If it could do 100mph, you'd reduce it 6.25 mph.Best stock top speed could be anywhere from 80 to 120 mph, depending on the weight of the rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I had a 09 Ninja 250r. It got my gf and I over 80 on the speedo took a bit but happened. Thats combined 340# mainly me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywood3586 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I had a 09 Ninja 250r. It got my gf and I over 80 on the speedo took a bit but happened. Thats combined 340# mainly me.Poor bike.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gen3flygirl Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'd say street fighter it out. Weld a plate under the seat and mount all the electrical stuff under there. Remove the air box and add the pod filters. Get a gel battery and mount it under the gas tank. Cut off any unnecessary part from the frame and repaint it. Get digital gauges and due duel round headlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 -1 in the front is plenty on a small displacement bike, and easy to change back.If it's 16T going to 15T, that's 1/16 less top end. If it could do 100mph, you'd reduce it 6.25 mph.Best stock top speed could be anywhere from 80 to 120 mph, depending on the weight of the rider.There's no way in hell any ninja 250 is hitting 120 unless it's hit from behind by a corvette.And weight has almost no affect on top speed. It has a dramatic affect on acceleration, but not on top speed. Top speed is determined by aerodynamics and horsepower. An EX250 has like 28hp(?), so whenever the wind is pushing back with the force of 28hp, you've reached top-speed for that bike.a 200 lbs rider and 80 lbs rider both still only have the same 28hp on the same bike - the only difference is that the 200lbs rider might be SLIGHTLY less aerodynamic; but that's based on surface area, not mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Poor bike.. I had to rape that bike to get it to go but I have been looking for another one even though I am way to big for it. It was awesome for around town/minimal freeway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 ¡SI SE PUEDE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 EX250's don't have a rev limiter, so I'm going to have to call BS.You saying there is no speed barrier huh? The 250 goes infinity speed? I never rode one, but she said it was hitting the limiter at 90 give or take a few and that was stock gearing. All bikes have a max speed they will make it to if pushed. I can run mine at around 85, but there's not much left in it up there.Exactly, now take an even older one probably and install -1/+3 gearing and it will have a very low top end, or you can not calibrate it and it'll look super fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 You saying there is no speed barrier huh? no he is saying there is no rev limiter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) It revs infinity? I don't care how many revolutions per minute it can do. In my post I said the limiter (speed limiter), referring to it's top speed. The bike only will go so fast. Edited March 8, 2011 by NinjaNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I rode a 250 once..... I was literally looking for the pedals when I hit a hill with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 It revs infinity? I don't care how many revolutions per minute it can do. In my post I said the limiter (speed limiter), referring to it's top speed. The bike only will go so fast.once it revs past X, the cdi does not know what to do anymore, and it just fires randomly. its not like on a modern bike where it knows what its doing when it pulls the spark you could make an argument that physics is a "speed limiter", and it kind of is. but when a bike runs out of power or something, thats different than when a bike is electronically set up to not go any faster than X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) I understand. Reads like we just have our different definitions of limiter on the top end, because a bike not pulling speed anymore is the limiter to me because that's the bikes limit of speed. Limiter is more related to electronically limited I know that, so I should have just said "top speed limit" instead of limiter, sorry.-1/+3 is a very low top end though on an old 250 is the 2008 does 90. Edited March 8, 2011 by NinjaNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) no i get what you are saying... i mean there is lots of stuff that affects top end speed... like physics, aero etc whatever.... but i wouldnt really call it a "speed limiter". id say its gear limited, aero limited etc...but it would be different from say, my car, where the computer wont let it go past 104, even though it still has more rpm left in top gear. Edited March 8, 2011 by John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 No, you cant make a 250 look cooland on your top speed question unless you are limited in speed by the gearing you may actually increase your top speed when gearing down as you will be at a higher RPM when at the same MPH. For most bikes higher rpm = higher hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 No, you cant make a 250 look cooland on your top speed question unless you are limited in speed by the gearing you may actually increase your top speed when gearing down as you will be at a higher RPM when at the same MPH. For most bikes higher rpm = higher hp.i'm going to have to question your math there... Example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 You should get an EX500 instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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