ohdaho Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I may have found a pretty good deal on an ignition module and quickshifter for my 05 zx6r. $140 shipped.But what exactly is everyone's opinion on this? Is it worth the gains? Is it a good deal.Bike mods:Jumper modfull arrow exhaustK&N air filterMay get a thinner race head gasket this seasonIm slowly tracking my bike out. Next big purchase will probably be new forks/internals. The $140 sounded like a good deal, so Im curious if I should jump on it.Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Fork internals and rear shock should be priority number1.However, that being said, regarding the topic - if tracking this bike only, yes - go with a QS unit. You'll never understand why you ever were riding w/o one. If street riding, it is a complete waste of money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubguy85 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I may have found a pretty good deal on an ignition module and quickshifter for my 05 zx6r. $140 shipped.But what exactly is everyone's opinion on this? Is it worth the gains? Is it a good deal.Bike mods:Jumper modfull arrow exhaustK&N air filterMay get a thinner race head gasket this seasonIm slowly tracking my bike out. Next big purchase will probably be new forks/internals. The $140 sounded like a good deal, so Im curious if I should jump on it.Thanks.Bazazz ftw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APCh8r Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 $140 for BOTH? Then yes that is a great deal as they are usually that much a piece. But I agree with brian, do suspension soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Bazazz ftw!they don't make the bazzaz for that year.I wish I would have picked up my quick shifter sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdaho Posted June 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) Thanks for yalls opinions! I definitely want to get my suspension set up, already have a penske rear shock installed...just waiting for a good deal on some forks/internals. I happen to come across the IM/QS on kawiforums at a pretty cheap price and felt it was too good to pass up at the time. If I had the option of going with a Bazzaz set-up, I would have but bazazz didnt show any love for the 05-06 zx6r. Looks like im getting some new toys by the end of the week. This hobby is getting addictive fast....and not cheap. Edited June 13, 2011 by ohdaho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgetz524 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I have suspension and a quick shifter. The quick shifter is probably my most used mod. I love it. Especially for the street, great for the track too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubguy85 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I have suspension and a quick shifter. The quick shifter is probably my most used mod. I love it. Especially for the street, great for the track too.U use your quickshifter more than suspension ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I have suspension and a quick shifter. The quick shifter is probably my most used mod. I love it. Especially for the street, great for the track too.wat. you mean all those bumps you don't use your suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 ohdaho, they don't offer the bazzaz for the zx6r until 07. I have looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdaho Posted June 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 ohdaho, they don't offer the bazzaz for the zx6r until 07. I have looked.Yea i found this out last year when I was looking for PCs. Sucks to be us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgetz524 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 U use your quickshifter more than suspension ? wat. you mean all those bumps you don't use your suspension?What I'm saying is:If I want to do clutchless, on-throttle up shifts (which I do like to do ) the stock shifter is not capable of doing that, where the QS is.If I want to go over a bump, the stock suspension was capable of the act of compressing and rebounding the forks, it does not require a full Ohlins setup to manage that.I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but the QS is more of a discernible difference than upgraded suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 What I'm saying is:If I want to do clutchless, on-throttle up shifts (which I do like to do ) the stock shifter is not capable of doing that, where the QS is.If I want to go over a bump, the stock suspension was capable of the act of compressing and rebounding the forks, it does not require a full Ohlins setup to manage that.I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but the QS is more of a discernible difference than upgraded suspension.Whoa...As for street, you are right on the suspension... Stock stuff is pretty damn good nowadays. QS is no different than putting anything else on your bike for street use - it is user preference and we shouldn't judge.That being said, if you honestly think a QS ranks higher than aftermarket suspension components (Do both together - stock front and aftermarket rear is like buying 1 high performance tire for your Porsche and 3 skinny no name tires and hoping it all works out...), you are well off base. I mean that in the most friendly way possible, but at the track, more time will be dropped with better suspension than a QS or exhaust, etc... You can run faster on a stock bike with great suspension than the same bike with a bad ass exhaust, PC, QS, race tires, Supersport Engine build, trick and lightweight parts, etc and OEM/stock suspension... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Also, the idea on a QS is to gain that thousandths of a second on each up shift. You really need to be running full throttle and high RPMs to benefit. Otherwise, it is such a waste and better to put funds towards other more important things. Now, you track it at all (drag or road race) and you are totally cool not go and again, shouldn't judge. Just saying to the kids out there considering this bolt on piece, it isn't worth it for street use... Rather, never designed for street use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Also, the idea on a QS is to gain that thousandths of a second on each up shift. You really need to be running full throttle and high RPMs to benefit. Otherwise, it is such a waste and better to put funds towards other more important things. Now, you track it at all (drag or road race) and you are totally cool not go and again, shouldn't judge. Just saying to the kids out there considering this bolt on piece, it isn't worth it for street use... Rather, never designed for street use...Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the point of the quickshift to cut the spark for you for clutchless shifting? I'd say the fact of saving time wouldn't really be the point there, but making sure the engine isn't firing while you're shifting. Just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgetz524 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Agreed. I guess I just feel I get more out of the shifter because I use it most of the time on the street. And the few times I do track days (~two a year), I am mid-pack novice and don't ride hard enough to actually take advantage the suspension upgrades (front and rear) that I have. I have them just because I want them and because I feel they are going to be a little more forgiving than stock if I were to "run out of talent". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the point of the quickshift to cut the spark for you for clutchless shifting? I'd say the fact of saving time wouldn't really be the point there, but making sure the engine isn't firing while you're shifting. Just my two cents.fuel or spark depending, in this case spark yes. in theory, when you do clutchless upshifts old-school with quick off/on throttle it lessens the torque load on the engine allowing you to seamlessly shift into the next gear. the qs just does the quick off/on throttle dealio super quick for you eliminating this area focus and allowing you to use that extra concentration elsewhere. so the point is to gain that couple thousandths of a second that it takes you to roll off and back on the throttle (and the slight momentum loss from letting off) and allowing a computer to do it for you much quicker. the engine not firing is just a byproduct of the qs doing its job. Edited June 13, 2011 by natedogg624 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 What I'm saying is:If I want to do clutchless, on-throttle up shifts (which I do like to do ) the stock shifter is not capable of doing that, where the QS is.If I want to go over a bump, the stock suspension was capable of the act of compressing and rebounding the forks, it does not require a full Ohlins setup to manage that.I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but the QS is more of a discernible difference than upgraded suspension.i will agree to an extent that the qs is more noticeable than an upgraded suspension because it's immediate fun and "cool" that can be had. although i'll agree with brian more that suspension is a more worthwhile upgrade that takes off seconds from one's laptimes vs thousands of a second from qs use and should be a much higher priority than a qs. however, at the price he's found it - it would be something i dont think i'd pass up even if suspension wasn't done yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the point of the quickshift to cut the spark for you for clutchless shifting? I'd say the fact of saving time wouldn't really be the point there, but making sure the engine isn't firing while you're shifting. Just my two cents.You are correct as to how it works. But, for racing or track days and even drag racing, that minimal amount of grabbing and pulling in the lever is time added. You eliminate that with a QS. Just using your foot with wide open throttle is knocking off time (even though VERY minimal, but add that up each lap! ) each and every lap/pass...Again, it is not designed for the street guy but rather a race application... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSB67 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Bazazz ftw!Since this thread was jacked long before I got here: Anybody got an extra Bazzaz "pull" switch lying around?It'll be some time before I put my faith in this newfangled thingy. Before using it, I'm curious - how deliberate do you have to be with the shifts? If you're too gradual with the pressure can you miss the kill window, or does it trigger at a high enough load to guarantee an upshift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Since this thread was jacked long before I got here: Anybody got an extra Bazzaz "pull" switch lying around?It'll be some time before I put my faith in this newfangled thingy. Before using it, I'm curious - how deliberate do you have to be with the shifts? If you're too gradual with the pressure can you miss the kill window, or does it trigger at a high enough load to guarantee an upshift?Bazaaz'a unit is awesome. Like the others, you can program how long the delay is. I am experimenting on the RC8R right now with a USB stand alone unit for possible catalog part entry. It has worked flawlessly. In fact, it works better than the KLS unit that comes with the bike as you have more ability to tune it in to your desired wants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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