HEL brake lines (info needed)

[2talltim]

Thinking about replacing the old 14yr old stock brake lines on the TLS. Came across these on the net and wondered if anyone has anything to say about them. I believe im going with the full lenth race line and do away with the front fender x over.

front...

http://helperformance.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=145_187&products_id=5575

rear...

http://helperformance.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=145_187&products_id=5841

Edited September 14, 2011 by 2talltim

[2talltim]

also any info on if i should do the exact replacment or do the race set up...trying to detemine if the extra plumbing and braket fab. would be worth any benifits for my type of riding

[conn-e-rot]

Go with spiegler

http://spieglerusa.com/brakes/cycle-brake-line-kits.html

[APCh8r]

+1 for spiegler, they are local (Dayton) and you have all kinds of color options.

[c7fx]

I have used Hel brakes for years and you can actually call them and have custom lines made for the same cost as the ones pre made. At least thats how They used to be when I had my last set made.

[2talltim]

Go with spiegler

http://spieglerusa.com/brakes/cycle-brake-line-kits.html

hum...they are about $30 more for both sets but i do like me some local customer service..everything else seems to be about the same

[2talltim]

looks like both are custom...hel in across the pond spiegler is local so the shipping only puts them $9 difference and the locals would get here quicker

[APCh8r]

You won't be disappointed with the Spiegler lines. Plus the banjos can be spun around so you never have to worry about binding.

[2talltim]

found these on egay.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310341404896&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123

im going to call Spiegler directly tommorrow and see if their prices are any different

also found out spiegler dont come with new banjo bolts the hel's do

[APCh8r]

found these on egay.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310341404896&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123

im going to call Spiegler directly tommorrow and see if their prices are any different

also found out spiegler dont come with new banjo bolts the hel's do

http://www.spieglerusa.com/brakes/cycle-brake-line-kits.html

[2talltim]

http://www.spieglerusa.com/brakes/cycle-brake-line-kits.html

I seen the MSRP on their site ...but there is no way to order direct from there

[2talltim]

OK i think im 90% going with the spiegler's ...next question is should i go with the over the fender or the race set up...the race set up would require fabing some hose brackets but is suposed to offer better performance...on the other hand im not exactly a road racer

[APCh8r]

Most people go with the 2 line alternate, you don't need brackets to hold the line, it won't get in the way of anything. The 2 line alternate will come with a new banjo bolt also.

[2talltim]

Most people go with the 2 line alternate, you don't need brackets to hold the line, it won't get in the way of anything.

Good to know...dose the extra clutter in the triple tree area ever been a issue to anyone?...Is there a huge advantage in performance with the alt? My bike has the crap TOKICO calipers to begin with

[APCh8r]

Good to know...dose the extra clutter in the triple tree area ever been a issue to anyone?...Is there a huge advantage in performance with the alt? My bike has the crap TOKICO calipers to begin with

No not an issue, give them a call tomorrow and they can answer any questions you have and get your ordered processed.

[2talltim]

No not an issue, give them a call tomorrow and they can answer any questions you have and get your ordered processed.

thanks for all the info

[mello dude]

I'm running spiegler on my VFR800. Mostly I just figured out line length, and what fittings I wanted and just showed up at their store. A very good way to go. - Nice that they are in my backyard too.

http://spieglerusa.com/brakes/cycle-brake-line-kits.html

Here's my over anal approach. I used a FZ1 brake manifold and mounted it at the lower triple with an angle bracket, and separated the lines into 3. I just wanted it to be neat, neat, and clean. - Did the job. - Used a pressure switch for the brake lights.

Edited September 15, 2011 by mello dude

[TSB67]

OK i think im 90% going with the spiegler's ...next question is should i go with the over the fender or the race set up...the race set up would require fabing some hose brackets but is suposed to offer better performance...on the other hand im not exactly a road racer

My opinion may vary from others, but I would go with the "over the fender."

#1, the double banjo at the MC gave me some clearance difficulties.

#2, I don't know what the performance advantage is supposed to be, but my setup with the two full length lines gave me a softer lever than the stock lines. I had two bikes side by side with the same brake pads to compare. There is the possibility that something else was off in the MC or calipers, but I feel it might be increased compressibilty due to higher volume of fluid.

Anyhow, this is my opinion, don't care to argue, just saying if I buy SS lines in the furture, they will be "over the fender."

[2talltim]

My opinion may vary from others, but I would go with the "over the fender."

#1, the double banjo at the MC gave me some clearance difficulties.

#2, I don't know what the performance advantage is supposed to be, but my setup with the two full length lines gave me a softer lever than the stock lines. I had two bikes side by side with the same brake pads to compare. There is the possibility that something else was off in the MC or calipers, but I feel it might be increased compressibilty due to higher volume of fluid.

Anyhow, this is my opinion, don't care to argue, just saying if I buy SS lines in the furture, they will be "over the fender."

thanks for the info..i havnt decided yet witch way to go..over the fender would be the easier way to go

[2talltim]

I'm running spiegler on my VFR800. Mostly I just figured out line length, and what fittings I wanted and just showed up at their store. A very good way to go. - Nice that they are in my backyard too.

http://spieglerusa.com/brakes/cycle-brake-line-kits.html

Here's my over anal approach. I used a FZ1 brake manifold and mounted it at the lower triple with an angle bracket, and separated the lines into 3. I just wanted it to be neat, neat, and clean. - Did the job. - Used a pressure switch for the brake lights.

looks nice , but im wanting simple too

[mello dude]

Looks like theres a over the fender kit out there for you already..

http://spieglerusa.com/brakes/cycle-brake-line-kits.html

[2talltim]

Looks like theres a over the fender kit out there for you already..

http://spieglerusa.com/brakes/cycle-brake-line-kits.html

yup the over the fender kit and the 2 line alt. kit are ready togo kits from both companies..just trying to figure witch is best for me

[2talltim]

Decided to go with the Spiegler over the fender kit, Red/Gold, and all new ss bolts...Mike from Riders Discount is hooking me up:bow: