Scruit Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Seriously thinking about adding a Taser C2 to my EDC...- The C2 can go places my EDC can't (when I have to go into the building to pick my son up from his school every day, for example). "Conceal it well" will not make me feel good about committing a felony - risk is too high.- The fallout from tazing someone is much less than killing them. Even good shoots leave the shooter to suffer. Legals bills, threat of jail time, death threats from "bruh-bruh's" friends, living with the knowledge you took a life or permanently injured someone. - EDC would still be there as a backup, or a go-to tool if the C2 isn't going to help.- Currently I can't carry my EDC every day because I go from CPZ to CPZ all day long. CPZs don't stop the C2.- The C2 works like a police taser only the range is reduced to 15' and the cycle time is 30 seconds, not 5 seconds. Designed to let you flee while the bad guy is doing the floppy dance inthe floor.Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 living with the knowledge you took a life or permanently injured someone. Thoughts?that's a good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 i like it. just always be aware that you're likely going to have the "victim" alive telling his side of the story, but that death is still a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 question regarding the model you're looking at - can you also drive-tase someone after you've fired the probes?Like if you shoot and miss, and the attacker tackles you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Yes, can drive-tase too.I don't mind the bad guy telling his side. Beats the shit out of having the public invent something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Does Ohio require civilians to go through training before legally carrying a taser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Buy two and give me one. That's one thing I don't own that I would like to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 No training required. Legal in ohio. Smaller than a pistol but, if you hit, much more effective. Instant incapacitation for 30 seconds so you can run away or immobilize tha bad guy. Running away requires you leave the taser behind, but taser will give you a new one if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I'll stick with my guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Thought about one for the wife. She is still not into guns much though she did go to the range with me finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugan n rita Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Yea I would have to agree with Mr ninja, the wife and I will stick to our guns, besides try to take her pink eagle 50, she just might say something like smile and wait for flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Got my Taser. Registered, activated and tested.That's one mean looking spark on drive-stun mode. Here's hoping I never use it, but it's one more option available to me if I'm ever attacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Registered? Why carry a tazer when you can carry a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Registered? Why carry a tazer when you can carry a gun. It is shipped in a deactivated state. You have to register the it with taser international. They do a background check (felonies only, only took 2 minutes). The cartridges shoot out confetti with micro-printed serial numbers on them and they can tie it back to you so if someone ever robs someone with a taser they can go back to the registered owner. Once registered they give you a 5-digit code that you have to enter into the taser using a combination of trigger presses. Once activated the green led lights up, the flashlight and laser aim turn on and you're ready to go.As for carrying a gun... I have a CHL and I do carry a gun where I can. There are too many places off-limits (felony-level off-limits) to guns carried by law-abiding folks so the taser is a happy medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'm all about diversity and options. Just be careful about laws. Ohio is teaser friendly but lots of other places aren't. Taser laws seem to be just as murky as gun laws at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 is a taser not considered a firearm/weapon? like, can you carry in school and gov buildings etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 (G) Stun gun restrictions(1) Stun guns shall not be stored, dispensed, carried or discharged in any building or on the grounds of any facility under the operatingcontrol of theOhio department of mentalhealth, except when a visitingpoliceagencyneeds to lock its stun gun(s) in a safearea.(2) No person, including policeofficers and other hospital employees,shall possess, store, dispense, carry or dischargea personally-owned stungun on the grounds of a facility under theoperating control of the Ohio department of mental health.(3) Ohio state highway patrol officers, local law enforcementauthorities,or other persons duly authorized to carry stunguns may not carry such weapons into patient contact areas of the facility unless a special request has been made by the chief executive officerin theeventof a life-threatening emergency situation which could require the use of deadly force.(4) Special requests granted by the chief executive officer, which areexceptions to the rule stated in paragraph (G)(1) of this rule shall be reported immediately to the director of the Ohio department of mental health, or designee, and a written report of such incident shall be madeto the director within twenty-four hours explaining the need for such actions.(5) Any person who violates this policy shall have committed an actionwhich may be cause for removal. http://codes.ohio.gov/oac/5122-7-04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 so, basically anywhere but hospitals? i guess this could be useful for people who work in schools and have to walk to their cars at night time *college professors, etc* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 so, basically anywhere but hospitals? i guess this could be useful for people who work in schools and have to walk to their cars at night time *college professors, etc*I'm sure they aren't allowed in court buildings either. I bet if you are a school staff member its in the rule book that you couldn't have one either. Most schools have s strict zero tollerence rule for weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 The test fire was interesting. I did a spark test first (no cartridge, just bare electrodes) That spark is something else - jumps over about a 2-3" air gap. The cycle is 30 seconds and cannot be stopped unless you pull the battery out. The spark is loud.I set up the metal-backed paper target on the wall and installed the dummy cartridge. It is blue in color and is the same as a regular cartridge except for having fishing line instead of metal wires. I aimed using the laser pointer from 10' and the top dart hit right there - the bottom dart was about 15-16" lower than that. With the dummy cartridge the spark still jumps the gap between the drive-stun electrodes instead of going through the wires, so it's still loud.In actual use, I am warned, the loud sparking noise won't be present as the power is going down the wires. Loud sparking in real use means the dart tips are insulated (clothing too thick, one dart missed, etc) so on to plan B.The cartridge cannot be removed during the firing cycle otherwise you'll get shocked instead. Multiple discharges are possible if you want to keep a person down until help arrives, versus escaping. 30 seconds is quite a long time, but in order to make use of this time you must leave the taser behind. But then you are leaving an activated taser behind. It's the cartridges, not the body, that dispenses the tracking confetti, so a stolen taser won't be tracked back to you unless the police get hold of it.The taser is 6" long and weight about as much as a stapler. It points very naturally and the aim was dead on the red dot.Taser lists the Platinum kit (body, battery, 4 live cartridges, 1 dummy and a holster) for about $450. The basic model as no holster and only 1 cartridge for $350. New cartridges are about $35 each, but I'm not sure how you go about registering them.I shopped around and got the Platinum C2 for $370 shipped, so I'm happy with that.Overall, it will never replace my gun, but it's a great fill-in for places where it would be a felony to take my gun. It also could be carried in addition tot he gun to give an extra level of force option for situations where you are attacked with less than deadly-force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'm sure they aren't allowed in court buildings either. I bet if you are a school staff member its in the rule book that you couldn't have one either. Most schools have s strict zero tollerence rule for weapons.gotcha...thats what i was wondering, if it was considered a "weapon"...if so, i guess i dont see a point having one if you cant take it anywhere you cant take a gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 is a taser not considered a firearm/weapon? like, can you carry in school and gov buildings etc?A taser is not a deadly weapon under Ohio law. A handful of states (including Michigan - but they are working on that ) ban civilian carry of tasers.The only places that are off-limits to me are Mental Health Facilities, and the place I work (strict no-weapons policy). Beyond that, all the places that are off-limits for my ccw are back on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Overall, it will never replace my gun, but it's a great fill-in for places where it would be a felony to take my gun. It also could be carried in addition tot he gun to give an extra level of force option for situations where you are attacked with less than deadly-force.just move to BFE and when you get attacked, just throw some elbows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 just move to BFE and when you get attacked, just throw some elbowsThen kick it sideways and get the hell outta there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 just move to BFE and when you get attacked, just throw some elbowsEmployers can make up their own rules for their employees. We have a strict no weapons policy, but its total BS as dock guys use box knives at times. Most all of us carry pocket knives? What is a weapon? Am ink pen is techienically a weapon a lethal one in the right hands. How about the fire extinguisher I'm required to have ? Flashlight? The hammer I use as a tire thumper? (21 oz eastwing claw hammer ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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