NinjaNick Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 That clover leaf is no more..... It has ceased to be......For yeeeeears too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 That clover leaf is no more..... It has ceased to be......Shows you how often I'm out that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrown57 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 There's one at 75 an 275 I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Used to be a couple in Columbus we'd play on when I was a kid with friends with fast cars. Dumb fun out at night running a clover leaf at 65 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Central interchange at 77, 76, 224 and 8 can be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 noobs and squids care about chicken stripseveryone should care if they are slower than me, thats just not something you want to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester_ Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Central interchange at 77, 76, 224 and 8 can be fun.Why, yes, it certainly can be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnone Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Chicken strips are a sign of lean angle. Lean is reflective of corner speed assuming you aren't leaning the wrong way as that's just stupid on any motorcycle at speed.I don't hang off the bike a ton, but have no trouble using the full width of the tire and going quickly. If I misjudge a corner, then I hang off further to allow the handlebar to be turned even further to allow a tighter turning radius. Meaning I will shift more weight off the bike. This technique allows me to ride quickly for longer periods of time without tiring. If I hung off far every corner, that is more effort. It also looks funny to see someone hanging off without much lean angle on the bike. This is a thread about stripes, not just going fast on a sportbike. Going fast requires much more than lean angle, but generally speaking if you can't lean a bike over near the edge, you probably aren't very fast either.http://s1145.photobucket.com/albums/o502/turnone/Chris Edited June 15, 2012 by turnone link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Chicken strips are a sign of lean angle. Lean is reflective of corner speed assuming you aren't leaning the wrong way as that's just stupid on any motorcycle at speed.I don't hang off the bike a ton, but have no trouble using the full width of the tire and going quickly. If I misjudge a corner, then I hang off further to allow the handlebar to be turned even further to allow a tighter turning radius. Meaning I will shift more weight off the bike. This technique allows me to ride quickly for longer periods of time without tiring. If I hung off far every corner, that is more effort. It also looks funny to see someone hanging off without much lean angle on the bike. This is a thread about stripes, not just going fast on a sportbike. Going fast requires much more than lean angle, but generally speaking if you can't lean a bike over near the edge, you probably aren't very fast either.ChrisWhat do you know about going fast? :.......::...............j/k after riding with this cat at the gap I would welcome any advise or tips he has to offer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.W. Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Chicken strips. Yum!Get your butt off the seat and it's amazing how much more tire you have.See avatar for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnone Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Chicken strips. Yum!Get your butt off the seat and it's amazing how much more tire you have."Get your butt off the seat" Yes. I like Keith Code's one butt check approach. I generally pivot my hips arount the back of the tank to get my cheek off and forward to keep weight on the front end."amazing how much more tire you have" Yes. Chicken strips are evidence of more tire available.But when combined the full statement could confuse someone. To clarify, more off the seat = less lean angle for the same speed.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blue03636 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 You don't want to twist, everything should stay in a straight line from your hips to your head. If you twist you end up moving just your but not the giant mass up top which stays over the center of the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnone Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 You don't want to twist, everything should stay in a straight line from your hips to your head. If you twist you end up moving just your but not the giant mass up top which stays over the center of the tank.For me it depends. If you are trying to weight the front under heavy acceleration to keep the front down, I do twist or rotate.If you want to have maximum steering angle, then yes, want to lean off as far as possible.Completely depends on the goal. Riding is very complex and you have to find what works best for you. My techniques are only guaranteed to work for me. Like I mentioned earlier, going fast is a combination of things, no one thing will make you fast.My photobucket has a few photos from last weeks Gap trip. You can see me pivot around the tank, not leaning off to far. I assure you this technique can work well. Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 You are more than welcome to ride how you want but coming from someone who teaches people, you don't want to get in the habit of twisting. Tucking into the tank will get more weight forward vs twisting. Riding comes down to comfort but there are some fundamentals, even Keith Code show body position in his videos but no twisting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnone Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 You are more than welcome to ride how you want but coming from someone who teaches people, you don't want to get in the habit of twisting. Tucking into the tank will get more weight forward vs twisting. Riding comes down to comfort but there are some fundamentals, even Keith Code show body position in his videos but no twisting.Cool. I'm 40 so not sure I'll change, but always be willing to learn. Please explain about the tucking in vs. the twisting or leaning off. I feel that rotating, it is a combination of learning off and forward.And although I like Keith Code, I don't only consider his advice when riding.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 It's not just Code, most everyone teaches it, not saying you have to change anything just helps put weight where it should be.Twisting promotes keeping the head over the tank which makes you put weight on the inside bar (not always a lot but it forces you to hold on with your hands not legs). Not a super big deal but if something starts to slide or get super bumpy you make it worse with your hands as you are fighting with the bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnone Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Great point. I am a huge believer in the "bikes steer themselves, don't fuck it up" technique of light on the bars mid corner. Huge imput, then light touch.Something to think about for me. I don't want to be doing anything that adds bar pressure.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 People can twist and not put the input in (Pegram comes to mind). Just keep it lose and your right, let the bike do it's thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnone Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 I do the twisting before I get into the corner. I haven't noticed any extra bar pressure mid corner while doing it, but I'll be on the lookout for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester is dead Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 "Get your butt off the seat" Yes. I like Keith Code's one butt check approach. I generally pivot my hips arount the back of the tank to get my cheek off and forward to keep weight on the front end."amazing how much more tire you have" Yes. Chicken strips are evidence of more tire available.But when combined the full statement could confuse someone. To clarify, more off the seat = less lean angle for the same speed.ChrisI have never heard Keith state anything about a butt cheek approach .However I have heard him say that a stable lower body (pelvis ) allows the rider to move his upper body down and inside the bike. the only way to accomplish this is by being locked on to the bike with the outside leg. I used to twist on the bike and it causes quite a lot of troubles at speed . Now that I'm locked on with my outside leg I can ride with no bar pressure in the turn thus the front doesn't slide like it used to when I was all twisted up and pressing on the inside bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.W. Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 "Get your butt off the seat" Yes. I like Keith Code's one butt check approach. I generally pivot my hips arount the back of the tank to get my cheek off and forward to keep weight on the front end."amazing how much more tire you have" Yes. Chicken strips are evidence of more tire available.But when combined the full statement could confuse someone. To clarify, more off the seat = less lean angle for the same speed.ChrisTo clarify, more off the seat = less lean angle needed for the same turn.= more tire left over in case of an emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Whatever technique Chris uses absolutely works for him cause he's fucking faaaaast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Whatever technique Chris uses absolutely works for him cause he's fucking faaaaastTrue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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