Scruit Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/28/how-will-supreme-court-rule-on-health-care-law/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 JRMiii beat you to the punchhttp://www.ohioriders.net/showthread.php?t=85349&page=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 JRMiii beat you to the punchhttp://www.ohioriders.net/showthread.php?t=85349&page=3That's in the private pages, us po-folk who ain't got no job and can't afford no in-sure-ants can't see it. But no problem, we'll have free care soon that you'll pay for and soon free interweb! Because it's our right to get what you got. Welcome to socialism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 what section is it in? apparently I can't see it either and thats never happend to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 its in the politics section. here's how you n00bs can view it. go to user CP > group memberships and choose the politics box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Welcome to socialism.Your "welcome" is nearly 77 years late...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_ActThanks President Roosevelt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 weiiiiird I've been in politics section since it got segregated. Wonder what happened that it changed on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership and/or control of the means of production and cooperative management of the economy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership and/or control of the means of production and cooperative management of the economy.thank you wikipediasocialism has other definitions, too... but it doesn't stop the conservative base from labeling everything the government does that they don't like "socialism" and depending on that age old connection to "communism" and the stigma attached to communism by the old ussr... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 thank you wikipediasocialism has other definitions, too... but it doesn't stop the conservative base from labeling everything the government does that they don't like "socialism" and depending on that age old connection to "communism" and the stigma attached to communism by the old ussr...Like I said, it's "socialism Tourette's". Keep using it in public as another 4 letter word and eventually it becomes one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I don't normally talk politics or religion because it never ends well. That said, we're screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I really, REALLY like most of it... and I'd vote to keep it. (even though I'm still not a big fan of the mandate, the rest of the law makes up for it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Call it what you will, it's me showing up at your front door saying we think you have too much and we're taking some to give to others because we want it. Not because we deserve it, earned it, worked for it or even asked nicely. We want and you WILL give. More over this will LOWER the standard of care in the US because doctors will simply refuse to treat those who have lower paying government policies. Better call the doctor to see what their retainer fee is going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) "<insert some item> costs money.i don't have it, but i want it; or i have it but i'm tired of paying for it and want it for free, or a lot less.maybe the government will buy it for me?lots of people make a lot of money, shouldn't they buy me things?" Edited June 28, 2012 by jblosser clarity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Obama 2009 with Stephanapoulos: "What it’s saying is, is that we’re not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore"Oh, like me having to pay higher fees/ taxes/ surcharges on my phone bills so that the "poor" can have cell phones, internet service, cable TV, etc? Which way does he want it? Save your breath, I know the answer. The "win" today will help Romney. Hugely. All the Obamafans already have free healthcare, they don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted June 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 You are already paying for poor people's healthcare through taxes (Medicare) and higher medical costs (uninsured person goes to the ER for treatment and never pays). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted June 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 All the Obamafans already have free healthcare, they don't care.This statement is quite simply untrue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I don't normally talk politics or religion because it never ends well. That said, we're screwed.That's quite a well-informed opinion you have there, I can see why you don't talk about politics a lot.Call it what you will, it's me showing up at your front door saying we think you have too much and we're taking some to give to others because we want it. Not because we deserve it, earned it, worked for it or even asked nicely. We want and you WILL give. More over this will LOWER the standard of care in the US because doctors will simply refuse to treat those who have lower paying government policies. Better call the doctor to see what their retainer fee is going to be.Ah, the old slippery-slope argument(fallacy). See also: gay marriage turning into bestiality, certain ammo bans turning into an all-out ban on guns, drug legalization turning into addicts around every corner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 While I hardly consider myself an Obama fan, I would prefer him over mittens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 i don't really know enough about the whole thing but I do know that small businesses and corporations alike are going to now be federally mandated to screw the fuck out of their employees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 This statement is quite simply untrue.How about I change "all" to "most"? Lots of rich Democrats for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted June 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 i don't really know enough about the whole thing but I do know that small businesses and corporations alike are going to now be federally mandated to screw the fuck out of their employeesAnd big insurance companies are no longer going to be allowed to deny or limit coverage for people with pre-existing conditions. "Got diabetes? Too bad - no more insurance for you. If you want treatment you have to pay it yourself and it will cost too much, so your diabetes will go untreated until you show up at am emergency room and then the hospital treats you for free and rolls the cost of your treatment into the bills they charge other folks." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted June 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 How about I change "all" to "most"? Lots of rich Democrats for some reason.Sure, if you can justify the word "most'. Got any cites to back that up, or is it just your opinion? "Your opinion" would be valid as long as you note it as such and not stated as if it is an absolute fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 How about I change "all" to "most"? Lots of rich Democrats for some reason.How about you do a little research before you just spout stuff off? There are PLENTY of Tea-Partiers that are on SS/Medicare. And, the greatest Tea Partier of all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Calculator to figure out your payment for health care:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/what-health-bill-means-for-you/#So, How much does it cost?For me it's only about $300/mo In the old days when I could get health care through my employer it was about $70/mo. I sure am happy about the improvement. Edited June 28, 2012 by Strictly Street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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