chevysoldier Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Duty rig or no, what holster would allow trigger access? Even if by some chance it wasn't holstered at all, I fail to see how the trigger got pulled unless her hands were getting frisky and in his pockets. Doorfront Parking like a BOSSNoBama 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 gotta be way more to this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 They sell "wallet" holsters that have trigger excess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Let's face it hug from behind is code for something. :takeit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Duty rig or no, what holster would allow trigger access? Even if by some chance it wasn't holstered at all, I fail to see how the trigger got pulled unless her hands were getting frisky and in his pockets. Doorfront Parking like a BOSSNoBama 2012My pic didn't show up on my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 What is the point of that holster? might as well just drop it in your pocket with out a holster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idodishez Posted July 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 My pic didn't show up on my previous post.Yes it did. But like Speedy said, what's the point of that holster?Doorfront Parking like a BOSSNoBama 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Yes it did. But like Speedy said, what's the point of that holster?Doorfront Parking like a BOSSNoBama 2012Weird, I couldn't see it last night but now I do. LolAnd I have no clue as to the reasoning behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy74 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 It was an M&P, and it was in a inside the waist neoprene holster. They are still trying to figure out how it got turned to hit her in the chest. Must be lots more to the story.Striker fired concealment weapons make me nervous, especially knowing I've got kids around all the time. This is a perfect example why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idodishez Posted July 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Apparently a .40 in an IWB. Makes even less sense. http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206684Doorfront Parking like a BOSSNoBama 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZRMatt Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) One of our officers was shot in the calf with his own duty weapon while it was in the holster. It was an M&P 40. According to him (and 6 witnesses), he was unloading his cruiser at the sub after his shift and as he bent down to pick up his bags off of the ground, he bumped his holster with his arm. The witnesses stated that the gun then discharged from inside of the holster EDIT - SHOOTING HIM IN THE CALF.Our ordinance department then stated that with the M&P, if you begin to pull the trigger but don't fire the weapon, the internals will remain in the position of the farthest position of trigger pull even when the trigger is released. They informed us that if you begin to pull the trigger but disengage, we are to unload the weapon including the one in the chamber, then reload. This will reset the internals.Our ordinance department still called bullshit on the circumstances and could never duplicate the incident in a controlled environment. However, they said it is possible.As a side note, when we first got the M&P, we (along with several other departments) had an issue with Blackhawk holsters. They originally had a long trigger guard and as you placed the gun into the holster, the trigger guard could get onto the trigger and depress it causing an accidental discharge. Edited July 10, 2012 by FZRMatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 The best thing from the xdtalk thread is "Carry Condition Butterscotch"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pU2IOTEZlU&feature=player_embedded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Bersa 380..... Aimed at the Englishman's junk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 There is definitely more to the story than we are all imagining in ours heads. I am picturing two adults standing up, the female behind the male officer, placing her arms around his waist and the gun firing and the bullet hitting her chest.Could it have been a ricochet from concrete? Although a bullet bouncing at almost 180deg is going to have very little juice left...Was it more of a wrestling situation, or did the officer bend over away from the female (causing his IWB to cant towards the rear approaching horizontal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 subscribed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuikAccord Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Maybe she cheated death and it came for her. Final Destination type shit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sParkSnare Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 What is the point of that holster? might as well just drop it in your pocket with out a holster?Originally this type of holster was made to carry a revolver in a front pants pocket w/o the gun printing. The better ones are made out of leather w/ the rough side out, so it doesn't move around while in the pocket (so it's always is in the same position, more or less, to draw). Although the pics above don't look like it, many don't enclose the muzzle - so you don't draw the gun out of the holster, you just pull the whole thing out of your pocket and start squeezing the trigger.My dad was an old school LEO and carried his Airweight like this for many, many years when off duty. So long as nothing else is ever put in the same pocket, it's a very safe and effective way to carry concealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 One of our officers was shot in the calf with his own duty weapon while it was in the holster. It was an M&P 40. According to him (and 6 witnesses), he was unloading his cruiser at the sub after his shift and as he bent down to pick up his bags off of the ground, he bumped his holster with his arm. The witnesses stated that the gun then discharged from inside of the holster EDIT - SHOOTING HIM IN THE CALF.Our ordinance department then stated that with the M&P, if you begin to pull the trigger but don't fire the weapon, the internals will remain in the position of the farthest position of trigger pull even when the trigger is released. They informed us that if you begin to pull the trigger but disengage, we are to unload the weapon including the one in the chamber, then reload. This will reset the internals.Our ordinance department still called bullshit on the circumstances and could never duplicate the incident in a controlled environment. However, they said it is possible.As a side note, when we first got the M&P, we (along with several other departments) had an issue with Blackhawk holsters. They originally had a long trigger guard and as you placed the gun into the holster, the trigger guard could get onto the trigger and depress it causing an accidental discharge.Interesting insight, indeed. Bersa 380..... Aimed at the Englishman's junk.+rep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy74 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 The plot thickens, the victim was on her knees in front of the cop when the gun discharged. Sounds like it was a fun party, ashamed there was dumbass cop their who was armed and likely drunk. You'd think a breathalizer would be SOP in the case of an accidental shooting. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/07/daniel-zimmerman/detroit-pd-shooting-story-continues-unravel/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 So not a hug from behind but a blow from the front? I think there is a detroit LEO with a short future in law enforcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangBruhY Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yeah, doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 So not a hug from behind but a blow from the front? I think there is a detroit LEO with a short future in law enforcement.this is why i subscribed... i knew this story would get more interesting...so what exactly was she doing when your gun "discharged"? Uhm, she was showing me some affection.... so she was giving you a hug? yeah... that's what she was doing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 So not a hug from behind but a blow from the front? I think there is a detroit LEO with a short future in law enforcement.don't think he will get the standard cop screwup 2 week paid vacation and slap on the wrist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuikAccord Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 A mouth hug..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Better than hugging a cop and getting him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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