Blitz Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Seems like lately it's been one thing after another with my bike.....but I'm learning every time and I guess that's what matters.A few times recently when starting the bike (97 ZX6R) it would click once or twice and then the starter motor would spin and start the bike. It doesn't do it every time, but it's new and hasn't done it before. I want to get it fixed before it leaves me somewhere stranded. The starter motor new is $400 and the solenoid relay is like $60. Is the solenoid relay the same as the solenoid? Both seem easy enough to fix myself....just need to diagnose what is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Weak battery? That's what mine ended up being a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Seems like lately it's been one thing after another with my bike.....but I'm learning every time and I guess that's what matters.A few times recently when starting the bike (97 ZX6R) it would click once or twice and then the starter motor would spin and start the bike. It doesn't do it every time, but it's new and hasn't done it before. I want to get it fixed before it leaves me somewhere stranded. The starter motor new is $400 and the solenoid relay is like $60. Is the solenoid relay the same as the solenoid? Both seem easy enough to fix myself....just need to diagnose what is wrong.When does it seem to do it, is there any pattern? I too would check the battery and connections really good, they can act very strange at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 When does it seem to do it, is there any pattern? I too would check the battery and connections really good, they can act very strange at times.Seems to do it after the bike has been sitting overnight or for the first start of the day. Battery kind of makes sense for that reason now that I think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Seems to do it after the bike has been sitting overnight or for the first start of the day. Battery kind of makes sense for that reason now that I think about it.K.I.S.S.....keep it simple stupid to start out with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Didn't notice it spinning up a bit slower lately? Yeep, check battery condition and connections first. Including the battery ground at the frame. Notorious for corrosion sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 If it were the battery, would that explain why it seems to lack power above 70 mph for the first 10 minutes after riding? Almost like the battery isn't providing enough spark until the alternator charges it..... Cause that's another symptom, but I thought it was a separate issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 i would doubt it, but you never know...bad battery can cause all kinds of issueswhat someone told me before that is simple and makes a bunch of sense: don't try to diagnose something else until you fix the problem you absolutely know of.get a new battery and then if its still acting up, start to diagnose it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I've had engines cut out at high rpm from poor battery. But that's rather extreme. You should notice a very dim headlight when that happens.Also a symptom of bad alternator output. But high rpm problems could be a lot of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 when you do the volt meter check we want the numbers from it when it it's off just sitting there, what it drops to when you are cranking it and when it is running while reved up to about the grand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSparky Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 idk how powerful bike alternators are, but with my car, i accidentally pulled off my positive terminal when jumping somebody. it ran fine, idled fine, no symptoms.i only found out when i turned the motor off, and all the electronics died instantly.but... on the bike, that's probably not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 but... on the bike, that's probably not the case.Depends on the bike. Mine quit on me at 70 mph on the freeway because of a bad connection at the battery. Kaw cruisers are famous for cutting out due to bad batteries or connections. Many of them run higher voltage batteries....the charging system feeds the amps but it needs the higher volts from the battery to keep the ECU working correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Depends on the bike. Mine quit on me at 70 mph on the freeway because of a bad connection at the battery. Kaw cruisers are famous for cutting out due to bad batteries or connections. Many of them run higher voltage batteries....the charging system feeds the amps but it needs the higher volts from the battery to keep the ECU working correctly.Mine, being carbureted, it doesn't have an ECU. Right? Either I'm going to buy a voltmeter or take the battery to the Honda shop down the road and have them test it. I'll post what I find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Mine, being carbureted, it doesn't have an ECU. Right? Either I'm going to buy a voltmeter or take the battery to the Honda shop down the road and have them test it. I'll post what I find out.Correct, no ECU for you!! You can probably borrow a volt meter at the local auto parts store. Most of them loan on many of those tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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