Scruit Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 gunshows are for selling, not buyingGun shows are for visiting 30 different vendors in one room. Can save a bunch of time versus going to Fin, Blackwing, Norton, Vances etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Fin had a couple of ar about 1 hour ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Fin had a couple of ar about 1 hour agohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in8b1XQfGeU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fazer1sniper Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 It seems that I'll be on hold for 5.56 and .223 for a while. I'm OK for now but its going to mean a lot less training on the rifles this year. Glad I got the Colt .22 M4 a couple months ago. DAMN! I need 980 rounds just to top off mags.... Looks like a lot of .22 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 i went, i saw, i did not conquer.i figured i would buy nothing. the prices were lollerific. nothing like seeing people buy $1500 ARs, then turn around and ask "what kinda bullets they take?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I just went up to one of the lgs today to get some more stuff for my oracle, They had a all polymer ar for $750!! and a chinese made ak47 for $899!! Thank god they are not raising prices on ammo or parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Did you go to B and T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yes the one in middleburg hts. They had a norinco(sp) ak47 for $899 and some kind of all plastic AR-15 for like $700+ They still had lots of magpul guards and mvg's in fde that's why I went up there to finish off my moe dpms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 gunshows are for selling, not buyingNot necessarily true, I bought a brand new Glock 26 at one for $60 off retail by starting a bidding war between 2 venders. Not a huge deal but only spent 5 or so minutes going between the 2 booths so it was worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggO Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I'm glad I passed up all the crap at the gunshow yesterday. Today I made a trade and got an AK 47, all wood furniture, 1 10 round mag, 4 30 round mags, and a 40 round mag. Plus almost 1000 rounds of ammo. For what I had in my trade and taking account of the AK accessories, I got the rifle for $100! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I'll give you 110! Instant profit. :fingerscrossed: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggO Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Wish I knew I could make that kind of profit! It would have saved me the trouble of digging up the back yard to bury it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motozachl Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 i went, i saw, i did not conquer.i figured i would buy nothing. the prices were lollerific. nothing like seeing people buy $1500 ARs, then turn around and ask "what kinda bullets they take?"repped for truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) I'm glad I passed up all the crap at the gunshow yesterday. Today I made a trade and got an AK 47, all wood furniture, 1 10 round mag, 4 30 round mags, and a 40 round mag. Plus almost 1000 rounds of ammo. For what I had in my trade and taking account of the AK accessories, I got the rifle for $100!So you do realize that possessing that is illegal right and that you just announced it on a public forum? Edited January 2, 2013 by flounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 So you do realize that possessing that is illegal right and that you just announced it on a public forum?My reading of the law is that simple possession is not illegal, but inserting that magazine into the rifle makes the rifle into a "machine gun" or "dangerous ordnance", whether it's got +30 rounds in it or not. You CAN get a permit (ORC 2923.18). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) My reading of the law is that simple possession is not illegal, but inserting that magazine into the rifle makes the rifle into a "machine gun" or "dangerous ordnance", whether it's got +30 rounds in it or not. You CAN get a permit (ORC 2923.18).We've been through this before on here. While actual possession may or may not be illegal, youre trudging a slippery slope because you have the ability to "adapt" your rifle to hold more than 31 rounds" Same concept as an SBR. You cannot have a barrel of less than 16" without having an approved SBR permit if you have all the other parts as well to make a working AR.You can have the barrel less than 16" but you cannot have all the other parts for the AR at the same time. technically if you have a lower and the 16" barrel, they can get you.Yes you can get a permit, and "your" reading of the law doesnt mean anything since you are not an ATF agent, lawyer or LEO who would be enforcing.When are people goign to learn that "your interpretation" of the law means exactly jack shit. Edited January 2, 2013 by flounder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) Yes you can get a permit, and "your" reading of the law doesnt mean anything since you are not an ATF agent, lawyer or LEO who would be enforcing.When are people goign to learn that "your interpretation" of the law means exactly jack shit.Chill, dude. WTF did I do to you? Also, David Gregory asked the ATF if the 30 round mag was ok to possess for his news report and they told him yes. Hope you don't expect us to trust the ATF as the oracle of all valid information. Edited January 2, 2013 by Scruit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Armchair legal council Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggO Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I found out after I got it that the 40 rounder is illegal so I traded it for a 30 round mag. Don't want anything illegal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 It's all in http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.11(E) “Automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. “Automatic firearm” also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges.(K) “Dangerous ordnance” means any of the following... (1) Any automatic or sawed-off firearm, zip-gun, or ballistic knife;...(6) Any combination of parts that is intended by the owner for use in converting any firearm or other device into a dangerous ordnance.So 40 round mag IN a semi auto rifle = automatic weapon = dangerous ordnance.40 round mag for a semi auto rifle that you have in your possession = you may be charged for it if they feel they can prove you intended to use the magazine in that rifle within the state of Ohio.Having said that, I have all the parts I need at my house to make all kinds of "dangerous ordnance", and so do most of the country. Can the prosecutors prove that there is an intent to do assemble said dangerous ordnance?But don't forget, everything I say means exactly jack shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I found out after I got it that the 40 rounder is illegal so I traded it for a 30 round mag. Don't want anything illegal.Safest would be to get rid of it.Another option is to permanently convert it to 30 rounds or less. Any conversion would have to be reasonably irreversible, so a rivet or cross bolt that could easily be removed would be risky. Welding a block in place would be better. I've also heard of people filling the bottom of the mag with epoxy so that when it hardens it creates a new "floor" but that would make it difficult to clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I found out after I got it that the 40 rounder is illegal so I traded it for a 30 round mag. Don't want anything illegal.Good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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