Uncle Punk Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 - I'm the enemy who demonstrates in support of 2a rights at pro-gun events- I'm the enemy that gives speeches in support of expanded ccw rights to the criminal justice committee at the Ohio Statehouse. - I'm the enemy who is a member of OhioCCW and the NRAWith enemies like me, who needs friends?I've conceded that you get half of your reasoning correct. You appear to be smarter than the average bear but can't seem to make it past your ruling culture. Your kind of help aligns you firmly with the rulers and is the kind of help not needed. You have embraced existing infringements and believe adding more layers to the issue will fix things. The enemy from within. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I've conceded that you get half of your reasoning correct. You appear to be smarter than the average bear but can't seem to make it past your ruling culture. Your kind of help aligns you firmly with the rulers and is the kind of help not needed. You have embraced existing infringements and believe adding more layers to the issue will fix things. The enemy from within.You've made your "point". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiomike Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Once the door is opened...like Pandora's box.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Biden added that his proposals won’t adversely affect Second Amendment rights and that they also won’t entirely solve the problem of gun violence. Still, Biden said, they “can save some lives.” www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/31/vice-president-biden-meets-with-senate-democrats-about-gun-legislation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/31/vice-president-biden-meets-with-senate-democrats-about-gun-legislation/The most worthless VP in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiomike Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 The most worthless VP in history.Quayle was a doozy....maybe worse than ol Joe, but neither one was worth their salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I've conceded that you get half of your reasoning correct. You appear to be smarter than the average bear but can't seem to make it past your ruling culture. Your kind of help aligns you firmly with the rulers and is the kind of help not needed. You have embraced existing infringements and believe adding more layers to the issue will fix things. The enemy from within.Never knew you were so deep. Ill compromise on my privleges not my rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Never knew you were so deep. Ill compromise on my privleges not my rights.If they can't get what they want through legislation, what are the chances they'll try to repeal the 2nd?So what did everyone here do in '94? That ban passed with republican support and was never challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I graduated high school in 94. Only gun i owned then was a shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 If they can't get what they want through legislation, what are the chances they'll try to repeal the 2nd?So what did everyone here do in '94? That ban passed with republican support and was never challenged.Good, this country is too complacent it need a good uprising. A chance for people to stand for something.Just like the wealthy leaving California because of their taxes people will leave New York because of their gun laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Again... We're all screaming about "shall not be infringed" and "civil war" but none of that happened in '94 with the first AWB. I like to have answers for anti-gun folks when they want to debate these things, but I've never figured out a good answer to why the first AWB was never challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Again... We're all screaming about "shall not be infringed" and "civil war" but none of that happened in '94 with the first AWB. I like to have answers for anti-gun folks when they want to debate these things, but I've never figured out a good answer to why the first AWB was never challenged.Gov't tried something and it didn't work. To try it again and expect different is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 The 1994 AWB wasn't a bill by itself, at the end. It was attached to another bill, and was accepted as a trade off in house and senate. When done that way, it's not subject to a lot of debate. Nor is it even sometimes readily visible to the public.This one is headed the same direction. The same method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSB67 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Again... We're all screaming about "shall not be infringed" and "civil war" but none of that happened in '94 with the first AWB. I like to have answers for anti-gun folks when they want to debate these things, but I've never figured out a good answer to why the first AWB was never challenged.Because 1994 was pretty much pre-internet and it was much more difficult to rouse rabble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Because 1994 was pretty much pre-internet and it was much more difficult to rouse rabble.That makes sense. Media was controlled by news organizations, but facebook, twitter, youtube and forums have given grassroots organization much more of a voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 That makes sense. Media was controlled by news organizations, but facebook, twitter, youtube and forums have given grassroots organization much more of a voice.Agree, now it only takes a few hours to find the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Agree, now it only takes a few hours to find the truth.As well as finding mis-truths and deceptions and lies. The internet is a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 As well as finding mis-truths and deceptions and lies. The internet is a mess.Gotta take the rough with the smooth. The trick is to be smart enough to recognize the lies, myths and bullshit. And ignore those who give you crap for helping others by pointing out the lies, myths and bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 As well as finding mis-truths and deceptions and lies. The internet is a mess.This is why it takes a few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Obama is NOT antI-gun just look!http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/02/16821315-white-house-releases-photo-of-obama-skeet-shooting-following-criticism?liteI bet he got a nasty bruise on his cheek shooting skeet like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSB67 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I bet he got a nasty bruise on his cheek shooting skeet like that.That would be the right way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 That would be the right way to do it.After looking at a few Olympic pics I will give you that maybe. I don't bury my cheek when shooting shotgun cause I don't wanna jar my teeth. He must have let the pigeon drop awful low too. I admit I am not a skeet shooter though. Nice to see our President enjoy the 2nd amendment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSB67 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) I don't bury my cheek when shooting shotgun cause I don't wanna jar my teeth.If the gun is properly shouldered it's not gonna hurt ya. A lot of times I miss I realize it was because I took my cheek off the gun. Sometimes I move the gun faster than my body and it comes off my shoulder - once in awhile I crack myself in the cheekbone with the knuckle of my thumb actually but it's no big deal. Once I get to that point I know any form has gone completely out the window and I'm just being lazy. Edited February 3, 2013 by brn6604 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrant Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) He's shooting trap, not skeet. Trap is single shot, skeet is double. Or someone set up his shotgun incorrectly. The gun appears to be a Browning O/U, but if you look at the front of the gun, the top barrel has an extended choke tube and the bottom has nothing. I doubt you'd have an extended on top and a regular style on the bottom. Plus, at least from the angle, I don't see a skeet house.He's close. He's got his cheek buried on there pretty good though. It's either he's never shot before, or the comb on the shotgun is properly adjusted. I've got an adjustable comb on my over and unders, but they feel pretty spot on with little adjustment. His front hand doesn't seem to be positioned correctly, and his complete sideways stance isn't the best for being able to turn side to side when you get doubles with skeet.Like this on my Browning 625 Sporting - the gold rings on the front are the extended choke tubes Edited February 3, 2013 by Hydrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) HR437 AWB from McCarthy is available to read.Text here at Library of Congress Edited February 3, 2013 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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