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Perhaps the fear is all in my head. I appreciate the vote of confidence regarding the striker-fired models, and I'll consider that in the future. But like you said, train train train. I am still in the "practice practice practice" stage.

Those usually only happen to negligent people. Most professionals prefer no safeties. Your finger should not be inside the trigger guard until you are ready to fire. I have had all three of the LC9's. I currently carry the 9S Pro and I also have the Kahr PM45 for the larger caliber. Both are loaded with Winchester Ranger-T's or Federal HST's for stopping power.

Yea that's another reason I'm buying out by bellefontaine. Plus I don't like relying on roommates lol.

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I'm glad you're taking it that way - it's a vote of confidence in YOUR ability to use the only real safety guns have - the human brain. But like I said, if a manual external safety rings your bell, go for it and train a lot, that's all - you'll be in good (Colt 1911) company. In either case, practice at home with thousands of draw-to-fire exercises (with the ammo put away of course!). I had the exact same concern, but once I started to carry an unloaded pistol around the house for several weeks, practicing my draws, re-holstering, etc. knowing that any mistake would only result in a silent mea culpa (which never happened), then I moved up to carrying a full mag without anything chambered and then finally full hot. For me, it was a progressive confidence builder that started with minimal risk and added just a layer at a time. Now I see my holster as my external safety, so to speak, and now none of my pistols have external levers on them to avoid flubbing up a draw in an emergency. The gun only leaves its holster when I'm preparing to shoot, unload or transition to another holster, always pointed in a safe direction of course and double-checked after unloading and before handling, even if just a few minutes have elapsed between phases and especially if it's left my sight and hands. Ever handled raw meat in the kitchen for even just a second, and your hands feel toxic until you wash them with hot water and soap? Or you avoid touching your eyes after handling hot peppers? Or your shoes smell like poop after walking through a bark park until you're sure they're clean? That's a lot like how guns feel to me until I've confirmed they are unloaded and they stay in my control that way. You intentionally create almost a neurological obsession about the gun's condition so that it sinks down into instinct. Others here probably have a far better description, but that's how I relate to it.

I actually modded the route just a few minutes ago. Skipping the three sisters, that is way the hell out of the way across a lot of crap roads. So now the base route looks like this: https://goo.gl/maps/4vMHdChayyH2 I know that area, we have hit northern AZ hard already. So I think the focus will be New Mexico which as tons of stuff to see and southern AZ.

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Anything is better than split brain. Except split dick. That's worse.

Lol. OOM got me. Kill mysqld during a backup. Brought down the database cluster. Galera will bring a cluster offline if there's a risk of split brain. Kind of annoying in circumstances like this, but better than having split brain.

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You also need to try and train under stress as you may still forget the safety even with years puff practice.

I don't notice any extra kick with the 40 Now the 45 does. Plus with steel plates it fun to watch them swing farther with the 40. 9, 40, 45 will all get the job done just pick one you can shoot accurately and fast.

It's ok to want a manual safety but if you do, TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN on flipping that off during a draw until it becomes like breathing or else you'll lose 1-3 seconds in a fight figuring out what didn't happen. I've seen more people in defensive handgun classes flub up their simulated drills because of that than I've seen NDs (zero). If you keep a chambered pistol in a trigger guard-covering holster and exercise finger discipline, you won't ND, proven by millions of CHLs packing Glocks and such every day. The 9S/9Spro would be an excellent pick. I don't agree that the 40 shoots similarly and find the extra kick and weight to be unnecessary for a discrete carry piece, but that's just my opinion. I think if you're going to sling a 40, get a CM45 for similar capacity, recoil and weight for bigger holes.

Already plotting my trip down.

+1 on the LC9S, PF9, CM9 (or CW9) and M&P subcompact 9. I have no idea why anyone would carry a .40 when so many great 9mm options are out there. Heck, might as well carry a .45 at that point, like a CM45 or Glock 30 - bigger holes with similar recoil to a 40. But 9mm is a far better carry package in my opinion. Critical Defense, Golden Saber and other great defensive rounds reset the 9mm debate.

The .40 round is just hype, get the 9mm and you will have just as much damage capability......trust me. Wound ballistics are negligible difference, shot placement is still key over anything else. This is coming from those that know a helluva lot more than I do.

The LC9s "pro" has no safety......just an FYI.

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hold PF9 or a CM9. Both are mildly larger than the LCP, and IMHO, much easier to handle because of that. For what the LCP and PF9 cost, I consider either practically disposable... Sell it if you really won't carry it, but otherwise, they're nice to have. If you liked the LCP design, but not the size, the LC9 is another one that may fit your hand better. The striker fired model is quite impressive for its size, although for a carry gun, I kind of prefer DAO and no safety. YMMV.

I'm in the "love my LCP" camp. Wife likes her's also.

I am in. They family vacation will bill a road trip out west instead of heading to HHI, so the new dates work..

The exact reason I moved from Hilliard and built in Marysville. That is just shy of what I pay for my 4br house on a 25 acre horse farm.

Never thought I would ever be a jogger turns out I was right all along.

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Done!!!! Found out that my fat ass size was on sale with a extra 10% off so with shipping I got a pair of the AD1 pants for $240 shipped to my door.

Please take a big steaming shit in your helmet........

Can't wait till this trickles down to their browser.

That's a long time to wait...but worth it. She should've upped the ante though with a 12 pack's worth.

So twenty years or so ago when Dave was 16 he borrowed the wife's car. First and only time he ever got to use it. She gave him the speech on acceptable use of the car. When she got it back she found a beer cap under the seat. Last night she put this in his car.