ReconRat

What they turned down was an 8% cut. Where the other percents come from, unknown. The only pay rate I can find, is that a baker union receiving clerk there earned 48k. The national average baker wage is 21k to 36k. (25 percentile to 75 percentile) Baker wages for new hires have fallen nation wide a huge 32% to 46% from the end of 2010. edit: similar to typists on typewriters, food prep has gone automated and workers aren't needed much anymore. Perhaps these bakeries still had old school equipment and were not competing well with newer bakeries. There used to be a bagel makers union, and it went totally automated and gone. Merged with bakers union.

So just tell us what the pay rate range was for these workers facing a 27-32% pay cut.

The Teamsters Union thinks the Bakers Union just shot themselves in the foot. Actually, also shot the Teamsters Union in the foot. Shot everyone in the foot. Salary employees took an 8% cut. Teamsters took a cut. Bakers said no, and now 18,000+ employees looking for work. And no twinkies for you...

First photos from EICMA 2012, Milan Italy. Mostly Italian motorcycles, but hey. http://www.eicma.it/en/gallery/43/Motorbikes.htm http://www.eicma.it/en/gallery/30/Girls%20and%20Boys.htm

Take hi-vis vests with you. (90 square inches of reflective material.) Contrasting shirt or jacket. It's a pain when you can't find one. You have to have one. Take documentation of MSF with you. It's sometimes impossible to take the course over there. You'll wait forever. PACAF tightens motorcycle rules http://home.earthlink.net/~cycleschool/military_training/id25.html displacement rule resinded btw, joining the gaijinriders.com forum or a similar one is a good idea. http://yokotamc.org/ I don't know which base you'll be on, but PAC rules are close to all the same. You need to search for motorcycle info of the specific base you'll be stationed at. Sad to say it's much tougher rules than the 1970's when I rode Okinawa. I was Army, but all I knew about Kadena was never ever speed on base. Misawa http://www.misawa.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=14428 http://www.cnic.navy.mil/Misawa/OperationsAndManagement/Safety/FAQs/index.htm Yokota http://www.yokota.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123299191 http://www.yokota.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-110705-002.pdf http://erowebs.net/yokotamc/forum/viewforum.php?f=23 Kadena http://www.afforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36144 http://www.kadena.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=10510 btw, I'd just buy one over there. They are cheap and it's easier. I just hacked around looking at used bikes till I had cash saved up to buy one. The speed limit on Okinawa was pretty much max 25-30mph everywhere. I settled for a CL350 in case I wanted some of the dirt roads around. Seldom rode on the mountain dirt roads, but it was a thought. Okinawa was a bit primitive back then...

tsk, ignoring the chain of command. Property owner must first secede from the township, then city, county, state, etc. Then country. Any good Russian citizen knows this. And I'll bet there's a form for seceding from township. Get started. google secede from township history lesson #1: 1912-1924 The city of Parma Ohio, was formed by citizens seceding from their township.

There ya go, all 50 States are petitioned. (Unless I messed up my count) Side bets on how many make the signature cutoff. And new for today: Have President Obama Do The Hokey Pokey We feel that in this time of despair, that President Obama should do the Hokey Pokey on national television during a special Presidential Address to the nation. As a show of bipartisanship, President Obama should lead with his right foot. After all, that's what it's all about. Created: Nov 14, 2012 Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Economy Learn about Petition Thresholds Signatures needed by December 14, 2012 to reach goal of 25,000 24,402 Total signatures on this petition 598

MJ snuck this one in, and I don't think anyone watched it. Point is that the availability of secession is a valuable limiting factor to the excesses of a federal government. Even the discussion of such can be constructive to the status quo.

lol, I see what you did there

I've thought about a 6.8 SPC, but you'll be reloading those. And there are 4 specifications for the cartridge chamber. Doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Missing the point. Tell them no, and it happens anyway. Win or lose. Choose wisely. edit: It's that free will thing...

Given the history of Honda, I'd expect the 500s to grow to 550s and 600s in a few years. But maybe only if the cbr600 also grows some displacement. I'm drooling over the retro BMW. I hope it's not an anemic low HP or heavy steed.

There are any number of countries that split, divided, or otherwise altered without warfare. Of course, Scotland and Ireland aren't on that list, but they did it anyway. The Civil War was a secession until the South decided to attack Federal forts in the South. Then it was a Civil War. Or was after the North decided to try and take them back. Even that was a blunder, since it did appear that those forts would eventually be turned over to the South, or an agreement reached so that they could stay.

I'm still struggling with the concept that joining a Union of States is somehow "till death due us part". I think if a group of people can join, then they can un-join. I doubt there are any unusual border fences or visas between Russia and Ukraine. Passports are required. (Russians have to have internal passports to travel inside Russia.) There is a fair amount of extortion by Ukrainian border guards. And doubt there would be anything too unusual between USA and Texas. Just arguments about the cost and value of fuel and oil pumped North in pipelines. Same as over in Russia. Ukraine adopted the laws and rules of Russia, as long as they didn't contradict local Ukraine. They did choose to accept their portion of the national debt of the Soviet Union. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Legal_Succession_of_Ukraine The real problem is that Texas paid in more than they received, so they might be due a refund. Not so with Mississippi, which would have to pay a large amount to settle up. Btw, read today that the USA will be the largest oil producer in the world by 2017.

BMW has some changes coming, but word is they will introduce a retro BMW at the EICMA show. BMW Reveals Plans for New Retro-Style Motorcycle Spied! – Lo Rider Concept Is BMW building a power-cruiser, techno-bobber or neo-retro roadster? http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-VI592_bmw_E_20121113155129.jpg http://www.cycleworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/BMW-Lo-Rider-02-M.jpg edit: found what looks like might be it on stage at EICMA 2012 ehh, maybe not. They don't want to show it yet. That's a new model R1200R on the right. http://cmgonline.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/photo-1.jpg

Based on what I'd seen back in the days of when stock cars raced at the Trans-Am circuit at Mid Ohio, the China Beach sand trap off the end of the straight will fill up with cars that failed to slow and turn. It used to be a grass field. edit: Oh yeah, and Nationwide (Busch) races I've been to weren't too crowded. They didn't sell out. Makes a nice race.

Texas v White isn't based on anything more than the federal government saying "no you can't because we said so". Texas counters that by pointing out that the charter for Texas joining the Union says it will abide the Constitution, nothing else. Nothing in the Constitution says a state can't leave. Other states aren't so lucky in the wording they selected.

LOL, several more states now listed, but someone posted this: Deport Everyone That Signed A Petition To Withdraw Their State From The United States Of America. Geez, cheech, you angry?

I think any American can sign any of them. Actually, I looked up the rules and it says almost nothing. Any human of the world can petition, age 13 and up. Maybe no limits on who can sign any petition. But it would at least make sense if it was American citizens petitioning and signing. edit: scarey thought... just exactly does the federal government do if over 50% of Texans sign the Texas petition?Or any other state, for that matter... edit: Houston's news article on the subject: Texas secession petition grows on White House website

Ok, half the states have petitioned now. And Ohio was the 26th (duh) Sign it if you wish... https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-peaceful-withdrawal-ohio-united-states-america-such-it-becomes-its-own-free-nation/xKLK11kk

Me too, ruined the VFR. Too heavy, if nothing else. And I like the CB1100, it's so retro. But a 919 does it better, hooligan that it is. I'm really kinda sold on water cooled engines now. Dunno, maybe later, maybe used.

Yes, but at the current rate they will have 10.8% (edited) within the time limit. That's huge. Considering all of this is not in the news. errr, or wasn't... CBS picked it up 5 hours ago. ABC and NBC picked it up an hour ago. Mostly because it hit the minimum required numbers of signatures. We'll see what happens now. Maybe all of Texas will sign it. Heck, maybe the entire country will sign it. We'll have a big party.

There's a difference between bad state spending and bad federal involvment. Wait, I've got a map for that... lol. States Draw Up Plans for Year of Even Bigger Budget Cuts http://sg.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-BB941_STATES_NS_20091111235425.gif

Louisiana, a bit rough, with no changes in the future. I think it's the off shore oil industry that keeps Louisiana going. Mississippi to the East is in rough shape. The states that pay little but take a lot from the federal government are Mississippi, West Virginia, and New Mexico. Map of the states here: http://skydancingblog.com/tag/federal-aid-to-states/ Notice that really only 21 of the states show a profit in terms of federal income/spending. And only 3 are in really good economic condition.

lol, it could actually be 15yo kids submitting the petitions. It wouldn't hurt most states to give some thought to a disaster plan. If each state found themselves on their own. A step toward that is individual state currency. Valid if the federal reserve goes belly up. South Carolina, Georgia, Idaho and Indiana are the first ones to vote on it. Thirteen states considering it. Minnesota, Tennessee, Iowa, Virginia, North Carolina, Utah, Idaho, New Hampshire, Wyoming. edit: Gold and silver state currency is already legal in Utah. Legalized in 2011.