I will do doing the Louie run for sure. Heading out from the Wagon Wheel. If you figure out a map for your ride to Kinzua let me have a look. I would be interested to see what your plans would be. Most likely though I will be going out the route I posted before. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=embed&saddr=Depot+St%2FUS-322&daddr=College+Ave%2FPA-18%2FPA-58+to:Hadley+Rd%2FPA-358+to:Greenville+Sandy+Lake+Rd%2FPA-358+to:PA-666+to:41.560619,-79.243183+to:Kinzua+Rd%2FPA-59%2FWardle+Kinzua+Rd&hl=en&geocode=FRoBeQIdyJ40-w%3BFdTUdwIdoHA1-w%3BFYgCeAIdFpU2-w%3BFW1gdwIdPBk5-w%3BFUCXegId_xJF-w%3B%3BFYBjfgIdUnxK-w&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=5&sz=13&via=1,2,3,4,5&sll=41.563445,-79.291248&sspn=0.06756,0.122738&gl=us&ie=UTF8&ll=41.516804,-79.749756&spn=1.439566,2.334595&z=8 I will avoid highways at all costs. If I'm on the highway for more than an hour I will go nutz. Way to boring!