i dunno, from the sounds of it, i'd need to get to otsego 83/93 by 10:40-10:45. per maps, it'll take me just under 3 hours to get to otsego (1.5 hrs to bolivar via slab, then 1.1-1.2 hours to otsego via 93), which means i'd have to leave by 8-815am at the latest. i'll think about it. if i don't feel up for the early wake up and whatever (I'm not a morning person and it's been a shitty week), i'll just do a easy ride somewhere with my semi-newb rider friend or find someone else to ride with. either way, i hope this thread serves some purpose other than my vagina leaking. that said, i really will give it the college try to make the ride.