Uncle Punk

It is totally retarded that we can't legally split lanes here. That might be the only good thing about California laws.

I've stayed in that cabin before & might be there July 9 & 10. You guys get all the rain out before I get there.

Apparently the writer doesn't like the speed at which the investigation is going but can't deny that a report was filed and is being investigated as quoted above from the article. This story is more about the writer’s opposition to the law the woman was arrested under than about dirty cops. There are dirty cops but this isn't any proof of dirty cops just an allegation that may or may not be true and is still under investigation. Something about guilty until proven innocent...

The woman was arrested for breaking the law. The people who arrested her were doing their job. If you don't believe that is a valid law fight to have it changed. I see no proof of police misconduct here, just an allegation of a law broken and an arrest for a law broken. I find the law she was arrested for to be absolutely ridiculous but find no fault for the police in enforcing it. I find most traffic laws to be ridiculous but don't think the police who enforce them are dirty cops.

That's good to hear. I intended to call him today to see how he was doing but got tied up. His first impression was that it might be totaled, has he changed his mind or has POC told him otherwise?

Fixed the article for you but condensed it to the basic message. I don't know where the author chooses to draw a line but it sounds like the speed limit is where it's at for this guy which probably works for him. If he has a problem with a fast guy he should have a problem with all fast guys because for the most part riding is dangerous for anyone pushing on the street and not being the local fastest guy doesn't make you safer. At what percentage of the speeds involved would the people he described demise not taken place? Would the same outcome taken place if they were all adhering to the posted limits?

P.I.T.A (pain in the ass) Poof (as in poof you're gone)

I can't vote in this because I don't have a bike that can do it, I had to borrow the bike on last one. I would say just like the last time because I don't know any better.

Zach rubbing hard parts, he's ready for the scooter racing circuit big time! Scooters are fun but full throttle everywhere you go isn't much of a challenge. I think I used my brakes four times besides the stops on 60 with the exception of time following a redneck in a pickup that couldn't pick a speed.

I'm still tired from that ride but had an absolute blast. I will let the guys know about this.

What does someone have to do to be able to eat a frostie in peace? First it's quick then it's the rescue squad. I think there is something wrong with Wendy's in Zanesville. Didn't I hear that Zach and Sue thought they would skip another scooter ride if one gets planned? So much hurt.

Maybe we will get to see what a million dumbass fags in one place looks like? Vrooooom, Vroooom

Hey, where was this guy?

I wasn't trying to be funny and I have stated my opinion on here about the MSF before. It was a bonus that it came out humorous because I'm cool like that. For the record I really do think the MSF course is a waste of time if you already have the ability to control a clutch and gears on a motorcycle. Anyone with a weekend of riding a dirt bike should be able to bypass the MSF course. This is my perspective without taking the course and I am not trying to put words into speedytriple's mouth.

How's this for an opinion I never took the MSF course and think it's a waste of time for people who have any experience with the physical controls of a motorcycle like a dirt bike with a clutch and gears. Take my opinion for what it's worth because I have no knowledge about what value the MSF course offers.

Not only fun but beneficial. I think we have ridden together before and if I'm correct it was last year’s Coshocton disaster so I didn't get a good feeling for your pace and you probably didn't get one for mine. I think I remember you wearing good gear so I know you are conscious of safety and take this as information instead of controversy. I have no shame in stating that my ability to do street riding safely at an accelerated pace was paid for by doing track days. Before I had done track time I might have ran a quick pace but it wasn’t safe and I for sure didn’t have options when trouble presented itself because in most cases I was over committed. I luckily made it through those years but disaster was always close by, I am trying to safe someone from taking the same path that I did and avoid injuries. I have rode with some fast people that I'm sure you have ridden with from the C.O.R.E. site, the two guys in particular I'm thinking of have done track time. I can’t speak for them but I'm certain that their ability to ride the pace they do come from track time. In fact every rider that I have ridden with that runs the same pace that I do with the exception of one absolutely crazy fucker (Who has gone down riding with me because he was over committed.) has done track time. Not that running a fast pace is the goal but it is a byproduct that comes with being smoother, having more knowledge of the bikes/your limits and that is something you can't or shouldn't be trying to teach yourself on the street. Having knowledge to assess hazards that are in abundance when street riding is a skill everyone should work on but having the skill to avoid them is enhanced by doing track time. Please do a track day then come back to this subject and I expect to see a different perspective on the skills that transfer to street riding.

Have you done a track day and found it to be a waste of time? I rode for 25 years off and on and thought I could ride. One track day proved to me that I was wrong. I no longer have pucker moments and have way more in reserve to avoid unforeseen problems purely because of track riding. I know what the bike will do when heavy braking is applied. I can change my line in a curve when gravel is present with the knowledge of how to do it and confidence because I'm not over committed like I once was. Track riding gives you the control over a bike needed to avoid most of the situations you have addressed. I would be interested to find someone who has done a track day and thought that they hadn't learned any skills that would benefit them when transferring to street riding. I can't justify that experience in my head and need some clarification.

I love to let the kids twist the throttle it makes them really smile. I especially like the kids who like to pin it to redline and make it bounce off of the rev-limiter that really makes me smile.

I kind of doubt an annual thing. I had fun and can say I've been to the river and back in a day but not enough fun to do it again unless others really want to do it; won't be my idea. A few thoughts on scooter rides. With the exception of my scooter (because I was leading the route) everyone was positioned in the conga line by scooter size for the most part. Your skill set can't make a little scooter faster no matter what you do. I expected to be able to dice it up with people and do some same lane passing unlike most sport bike rides. I know this is frowned upon but I don't care we were going slowly enough and people were skilled enough to handle people riding that close to them. A 250 scooter is so much faster than a 150 it isn't even funny so if I would have wanted to dice it up with them I would have had to stop after a couple curves, let them all pass and buzz them. That is not really all that fun. It would have been more fun if everyone was on the same size scooter because no matter your skill level most people can ride to the limits of a scooter. Think of an advanced track rider riding in the novice group, it wouldn't be much fun for them. Riding a 250 scooter with a 125 scooter is about the same as an expert riding with a novice on the track, you pass them and you’re gone only to ride on your own. (I wouldn't suggest this behavior on a sport bike group ride that kind of riding should be done at a track.) I can ride okay but put me on a 125 scooter and anyone else on a 250 and they will check out on me. I guess I was expecting something different than what we ended up with. Two of the folks I had in mind when this ride was planned didn't show up with the bigger scooters so we didn't do any swapping around scooters which I expected to take place. Riding a scooter makes every redneck driving a pickup into an instant asshole. I guess they have the power to keep you behind them so they have fun fucking with you. The same holds true with most every dumb fuck riding a Harley. I had a guy flip me off while I was passing him, he then gets up on my ass to show me who was boss, I could do nothing about him being there and thankfully a few curves came up so he disappeared. I am used to being able to pass slow moving vehicles at will which can't even begin to happen on a scooter, even farming equipment will keep you behind them until you get a long downhill grade without any oncoming traffic. It is a very frustrating experience for me and it doesn't offset the fun you can have on a road like 555. I would trailer down to 555 and trailer home before I would ride there again but probably not because I have a sport bike to ride down there on. I will definitely take a scooter to Deal's Gap again, the last time I had a 150 there and had as much fun as I did on the sport bike. This new 250 will kick ass there and I am looking forward to getting down there. I know I can get through there faster on the bike but on that road a scooter is so much fun. The scooter is a great 2 up machine to ride through the park and get some ice-cream but it's not a ride around the state looking for good roads machine. YMMV.

A picture from Scratcher Look at the little Ruckus 50 next to my 250

If you think you can't afford a track day then wait until you wreck and see how expensive that is. Seriously a track day is a wise investment to give yourself a skill set that you can't acquire on your own and will give you the ability to get yourself out of trouble. How long it takes you to get more comfortable is a question that can't be answered. If it were a formula then everyone would be able to ride the same pace after they hit a spot on a time line. Not ever going to happen. There will always be someone faster than you with less riding time. In any group of riders there are faster and slower riders but in most cases the amount of time each of them has been riding is not the deciding factor.

That corner gives me the biggest pucker moment on that whole road. I don't ride the road enough to remember it until after I have gone through it. I especially hate it because it makes me tired pushing the bike back up the hill to get it on the road. I would have called you if Roy's wishes weren't for the bike to be towed back up north. I would have doubled my girlfriend down and rode it home for him next weekend of came down with a trailer some night this week. I don't blame him for not knowing or trusting what we could have done for him and now it was done the way he wanted it done.

Keeping up with others is a recipe for disaster. Am I enjoying myself should be your measuring stick. The size of the bike or how long you have been riding has nothing to do with your speed. What you are willing to risk, how mindful of the law you want to be are better indicators. Just because someone is faster on a back road than you are doesn't mean they are a better rider or a better person.

I have news and permission to post about our injured rider. Roy, the non OR rider is the guy who went down on 555. He rode my scooter the 30 miles or so to Zanesville and decided he should probably have himself checked out. We were in the line at the Wendy's discussing the logistics of what to do with his scooter and about Slowroller (Rick) taking him to the hospital when another guy in line asked us what was going on, stated that he is an EMT and would be happy to check him out. After doing so he convinced Roy to let an ambulance be called to transport him. I would stay with the scooter until AAA showed up to tow it and Rick would follow Roy to the hospital. Roy's wife headed down to tend to him so Roy sent Rick on his way but he came to where the scooter and I were at. We waited until the towing was all taken care of and the two of us rode to Millersburg together. Rick was anxious to get home because he was to become a grandpa that day so he went on from there on his own to get to the hospital where his new grandson was born. Roy spent the night at Genesis hospital and his wife was able to take him home with a few broken ribs. I hope he recovers well and gets a new scooter. He had over 15,000 miles on this one so he definitely likes to ride. Roy and Rick know each other so Rick took it upon himself to look after him. In fact he went above the call of duty. Roy has AAA but they only cover 100 miles for a tow. The tow company charges $4.25 a mile for anything over 100 miles and Rick paid the extra $236 fee for the extra miles. A very nice thing to do and is cool to see someone stepping up to help a friend. Roy doesn't know me, had never met me so he might have been a little leery of my alternative suggestions to get his scooter home. We have a lot of people on this board who are willing to help out and I don't mind asking them because I would help out if possible just like they will. Having that safety net when riding so far away from home is comforting and a bonus to being on this site. I have had another rider go down on this same curve and I consider him to be one of the best riders I ride with. It is a very tricky curve that sucks you into thinking you are done braking so you set up for the curve only to find out that you need to brake again. If you aren't riding with anything in reserve or there is gravel in the curve or the illusion of gravel in the road a lot goes wrong quickly. I don't know exactly where it is but it is just south of Elliot's crossing. It's an uphill left hand curve that falls off after the apex, a very difficult curve to figure out and get right. The more local guys may know which one I'm talking about.