HOLY COW this is retarded! Both forums are good, and both are gay.. There are insanely large "DICK SQUEEZE" "RETARD" "F STICK" "ASS HAT" "ASS GOBLIN" "SHEEP BANGIN" "RETARDS" on both forums... Just because you post more on one forum than the other doesn't make you any freaking different. OR is more of a diverse group of people who some cruise, some track, some pose, some ride bitch, and some don't ride.. GREAT. That is who they are... AFJ is for the sport bike riding track crowd.. GREAT.. I'm on both forums, but don't consider myself an AFJ or Ohio Rider.. I'm hated by many people on OR for no apparent reason, but thats besides the point... But the point is its not freakon 1 vs the other.. There are a ton of members on both forums and that doesn't make one a member of one or not a member of the other... We are people who like to ride motorcycles... This is the dumbest thread i've read in awhile... Gixxie I know you personally and like you.. You have good intentions and you want to help OR members.. Perfect! Keep it up.. If you are pissed at Ben, don't lump all other members in with that. We aren't all Ben followers.. Some don't know you personally, but they see your posts.. Some are good, and some are off the wall.. Lets just drop the BS and go ride! MMMKAAAY