Steve Butters

This is the best thing you have ever posted lmao... and Redman is THE man (and so is your kid lol)

Also.. Fuck dry heat... Last I checked, AZ is like ground zero for this shit all the sudden... Somehow 

1 minute ago, jbot said:

honestly, it doesn't seem like a horror movie virus in the eyes of those of us that were hit the least hard like in not super densely populated Ohio that went into lock down early or those of you in nice dry heat states like Arizona so I get the sentiment.  But I think any front line health care worker in places that were hit super hard like in parts of China, Korea, NYC, Italy, etc will probably tell you different.  Personally, I can tell you that my in laws who live in Brooklyn live right across the street from a major hospital and they have seen the lined up body bags as they walk by.  But i agree with you, sometimes it's hard to see how bad it is when you just don't see people around you dropping like flies.  An honest earnest question here: what would it take for you to truly empathize with the people who could get it and likely die from it and truly believe why this is a real problem, beyond what's been parroted on MSM?  more personal experiences, immediately family members getting it, friends or their family getting it?  or information presented from a different source?  Obviously, I'm not wishing any bad health on you and yours and I'm thinking if you had contracted it personally and suffered from it like What did, it would be easier to empathize but since you're younger, you're not very likely to feel severe symptoms even if you did get it.  So outside of that, what do you think would change your mind about this?

You know...thats a good question... And I don't like to think I simply lack empathy but I'm not sure anything would change my mind... Like I said, im not exactly against face masks even if the idea of it bothers my core a little bit... A good friend of mine almost lost his life to pancreatitus complications. He's been in the hospital for like a year during all of this. Finally gets out and his wife is leaving him, he can't walk anymore, he weighs 115lb... Dudes life went to shit over something that was such a fluke. I just feel like whatever is meant to be will be. I would be crushed if one of my loved ones got Corona and died from it, I'm not trying to minimalizw that. Just saying people die and I don't think all this nonsense were doing is worth it. My wife is in an at risk group and I worry about her every time she does snywhere (she's at her school campus right now) but as much as I worry for her safety I still can't bring myself to support mandated face masks... I'm a well educated person and I understand my viewpoint may lack logic to some, but it's how I feel and even if no one here will admit it, I'm not the only one 

10 minutes ago, jbot said:

Look man, you're a cool dude and we always get along.  I'm not trying to condescend to you.  But I'm asking an honest question to understand your view.  Likewise, you should consider being intellectually honest and not hide behind something like "I never said I disagreed with masks" when you clearly did and do and probably will continue to do so after this conversation. 

I don't like mandating anything either.  But from a conservative or libertarian perspective, I think I could make a stronger case for mandating masks vs not in a scenario like this in preserving personal freedom overall.  I'm open to having this conversation and understanding where you're coming from.  I'll be honest and open to ideas and perspective if you are willing. 

11 minutes ago, jbot said:

Look man, you're a cool dude and we always get along.  I'm not trying to condescend to you.  But I'm asking an honest question to understand your view.  Likewise, you should consider being intellectually honest and not hide behind something like "I never said I disagreed with masks" when you clearly did and do and probably will continue to do so after this conversation. 

I don't like mandating anything either.  But from a conservative or libertarian perspective, I think I could make a stronger case for mandating masks vs not in a scenario like this in preserving personal freedom overall.  I'm open to having this conversation and understanding where you're coming from.  I'll be honest and open to ideas and perspective if you are willing. 

To be honest, I have no real preference either way. I'm the kind of dude who just goes with the flow. I'll wear a mask if everyone else is, I'm not the guy protesting it outside the Walmart lol.. 'm pretty buzzed right now so maybe my point I'm making isn't coming through how I mean, but I just feel like while it may be a moral obligation to wear a mask, I don't agree with mandates of any kind and I feel like it's a slippery slope. I have to sacrifice my freedoms (subjectively, I understand that argument) to wear a mask in public to combat a virus that I just am not convinced is as bad as it is... Maybe it's my distrust in MSM but I just don't get it... Yea people are dying, I get it... And I don't mean to minimize it when I say it but people die every day... We can't just shut the fucking world down over a flu virus... I'm sorry if that offends anyone (actually, I'm really not), but that's my stance 🤷🏻‍♂️ my flame suit in on for all the people here about to post facts and studies and all that, call me ignorant or whatever but that's my stance... I'm fucking sick of COVID... No matter what we do, everyone is getting it... I almost feel like everyone is going to get it eventually and it becomes survival of the fittest... I personally know someone who was about to quit their job over wearing mandatory masks, my comment was wondering if that sentiment is common around here given the newly introduced order to wear masks. I'm not hiding from replying how I feel, I just know it goes against the collective mind here, so what's the point typing it all? Even though I just did

Does this windmill count? Nobody said it has to be functional... 

If so, next one is a picture of your bike next to a statue (of any kind) 

58 minutes ago, jbot said:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

Can you share why wearing a mask is problematic when there are literally over a hundred thousand people dead in the US alone just from COVID?  To be fair, many would likely have died from the flu flavor of the week , but even controlling for that like this study done in NYC (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6919e5.htm), that is a whole lotta dead people just from COVID. 

 

So why is it a great undertaking to wear a mask again?

Simply making an observation. I never said it was problematic. I just don't like the idea of anything being mandated on me in regards to how I dress. I know I am not alone and simply curious on whether or not other people are following this order, given the rebellious nature of this state. But I really don't care about public opinion, so think what you want lol.

AZ cities are basically all requiring face masks now in public. While I appreciate the urge to quell the virus, this is America and I'm not sure how the fuck this flies... I wonder if people are complying or ignoring it.. It's pretty new so I haven't been out. 

47 minutes ago, Tonik said:

Lol, did anyone watch the video. The dude that put it up is black.

Booking him for a hate crime would be the least racist thing possible. If I was the one hanging ropes in trees, I'd get charged with a hate crime. This guy getting charged would be another step towards equality. #LockHimUp

Doesn't auto play for me 🤷🏻‍♂️

User error

I think you should keep it. 

17 minutes ago, Tpoppa said:

 I wouldn't want to be a cop, would you?

Nope. I also wouldn't want to be a nurse. Or a janitor. So guess what I don't do as a career? I am not a cop, nurse, or janitor 🤷🏻‍♂️... Yea it's a hard job, so if you're not up for it, don't fucking sign up is how I see it... I'd fucking neck choke out a motherfucker my first week because I lack patience with that shit... It wouldn't even matter about their color 🤷🏻‍♂️ so instead i just work for a bank writing letters to people who probably throw them away instead of even reading them. Can't get myself in trouble doing this (I hope 😂). 

27 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

If the police had the same consequences for a bad shoot/kill as a soldier on a battlefield I bet this wouldnt be happening nearly as often. 

I dont think soldiers are protected by unions are they?

You're probably right. Military members have even less rights than civilians when it comes time for court. Kinda ironic how that works out, the people fighting for our freedom have less of it themselves, but I think it does lend to further accountability.

You're supposed to post the next object, noob. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Wait... Pulling a still shot off my gopro of me in motion is not allowed? But I'd be okay to pull over on the road for a picture? This seems much more dangerous.... 

Who left the woman in charge of the rules? 

1 minute ago, Tpoppa said:

Paul had this thing hustlin' through corners in WV last year.

SBTS. $5000

"did the service early"..... 

3 hours ago, Bad324 said:

I briefly went down the detailing rabbit hole and while chemical guys is looked down upon by pros because of now being in walmart and auto parts stores it's always provided excellent results for the weekend warrior 

Funny how "making it" makes you suddenly lesser quality to snobs 😂. 

I saw some containers of paste wax that cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars for a palm full... I don't need that kinda shit to make my vehicles look nice 😂

Sounds beat to shit

29 minutes ago, Bad324 said:

Chemical Guys is an above average product that can be found in mass retail. I've had great luck with it

I just started seeing it at Walmart which is a big win for those guys I imagine.

I started buying their stuff when I got this bike in 2013 because it's a true matte finish so I had to get special products for it. Found them online and never looked back lol.

I do have a soft spot for the meguiar's tire shine stuff that looks and smells like grape jelly, though.

1 hour ago, 2talltim said:

When I logged on it said something on the lines of "waiting on host to start meeting" ...I didn't go any further just figeured no one was on so i just left. 

same... FailBen

I see this didn't last 🤷🏻‍♂️

39 minutes ago, bowdog said:

You will have to take it to them and have them scan it to get the code, then you can set your own code. Key pad is all I use, I don't even take the keys with me anymore just leave them in the truck.

I still haven't called, but my stepdad has a 14 f150 and he called the dealer and they gave it to him over the phone. He also locked himself out once and that's how he got in. The dealer service was not open on Sunday so I wasn't able to test that. I'll report back here after I eventually stop being lazy and call lol.

2 hours ago, motocat12 said:

The medics were called due to his behavior before crossing the street to the cruiser they tried putting him in. Do you want to give a suspect who may have been kicking for example a chance to assault the medics too?

How can somebody who is unconscious assault a medic? 🤔

Also, isn't that risk kind of part of being a medic? You can't just refuse to treat people.