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Agreed.

A lot of what these 'contractors' do is done with the understanding that if caught the US would deny any knowledge of the situation. They can make something like $200-300k for 6 months worth of work. It's a dirty business, they assume HUGE risks, and they know what they're getting themselves into.

Brian, re the RC8Rs: I liked them a lot and I happen to prefer twins anyway. The only nitpick was the throttle...it seemed to need quite a bit of turning to get to WOT. Is that stock? or is that setup to make it easier to modulate the throttle for people without a lot of seat time on the RC8R?

The RC8R is a fine machine. Great handling and loved the motor.

You'd be surprised. The term contractor or private security is intentionally misleading. While there are a few exceptions, these are para military units & are highly elite.

Contractors & Private Security Forces = Mercenaries Most are elite ex-special forces. They are 'contracted' for missions that in many cases are outside the rules of engagement for the US Military. They serve a purpose. They assume a VERY high level of risk and in turn they are paid well.

I tend to buy and sell more than my fair share of bikes. Ask anyone that knows me There's no shortage of used bikes avialable. So, unless it's an uncommon model, the asking price makes a big difference to me (not that I ever pay asking price). If the asking price is 10-15% more than I'm willing to pay, I'll just look for the next one. Not that negoiting more than 10-15% is impossible, but why bother? If it's an uncommon bike, there's probably few around and also few buyers around (if there were lots of buyers it wouldn't be an uncommon bike, right?) and there is usually more room to negotiate. It makes no difference to me if someone asks $10k for a bike I feel is worth $5k, I just wouldn't call. The market is self correcting anyways, if it sells great...if not you may need to drop the price.

So who'll be there for the 8/10 day and what group? Udel - N Rob - N Tod - Maybe anyone else?

The Rock House is pretty cool.

It turns out that I can ride Saturday instead of Sunday. So, as of now I'm doing SEO Solo ride tmrw. If anyone wants to meet up, I'll be taking 83S and leaving earlyish. Pace will be brisk, stops will be minimal.

KTM SuperDuke, 2012 Aprilia Tuono, or maybe a Ducati Hypermotard 1100/796 or an Aprilia Dorsoduro 1200... There are all fairly similar to the S3. Some are a bit more motard-ish, but still in the vein of a liter sized naked. Are you looking for something to ride differently than the S3? or is it a matter of so may cool bikes it's hard to only have 1, because I totally get that.

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Good info. That's helpful. The Mid-Ohio site could use a little more description on the classes. I have no issue riding in Novice, especially on a Katy M that doesn't belong to me.

So, you're saying we should ride in the same intermediate group?

HA! I'm just asking questions. I haven't even decidied to get on a track, much less picked a group.

It turns out that I need to be home by 3. I'll probably wind up leaving stupid early and do a long solo ride. If something changes, maybe I can be a part of the group activities.

What group?

Brian, How do you setup the 1:1? Is that just part of the class? This video is from the Mid Ohio site...I just watched the first 3 min. Is this pace typical for the Novice group?

Is that the difference between Novice and Int? Do you follow instructors around the track in Novice, and ride your own pace in Int?

I've considered doing a track day for a while, but I'm not interested on prepping my bike for a track day. If I do one it would be something like these KTM days. Can anyone tell me the difference in the instruction between Novice & Intermediate? How novice is novice?

The councilman claiming that this citizen legally carrying a gun is part of the problem is nothing more than an attempt at political deflection. He is trying to take some of the attention off the police dept. Angling to 'share' blame is a pretty typical lawyer tactic. The CCW guy didn't fire a weapon or even show it.

From the site it looks like you can sign up for Novice, Intermediate, or Advanced. What are the guidlines for picking a class?

I may be able to ride Sunday.

...and the KTM is out due to a nasty crash. The EBR machine placed 7th and 9th in early qualifying.