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I was sent here from overseas to the WTU for a board due to injuries. So if he is with any other unit other than MEDCOM I prolly don't know him. Not to mention there is like 90,000 people here with all four Brigades back.

He's my brother in law. Forget what unit but not medcom. Didn't figure you would but ya never know.

Good looking gun. I've never shot a Wilson but I'm not big on 1911s.

You don't know CPT Robison at Campbell do you?

TBH I would rather minimize the handling of a permit holder's gun. "Where is it?" "Thank you now please do not reach for or touch it for any reason." The less a loaded gun is handled, especially if they are nervous the better. IMHO I believe if they have a permit and notify, there is less chance of them shooting an officer compared to the person that doesn't have a permit and doesn't notify.

What time is this planning to start?

I forgot my OR name

But

You can call me hey you

What about calling you "that dude"?

Shouldn't you be eating a donut instead of posting on OR?

Meh, couple hours til I head in. And donuts are awesome

My name is Earl.

I agree that 99% of these are pretty bad.

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any where I move in Columbus I will bitch about safety.

Hence a rule I have that is not open for discussion: Never live inside the 270 outerbelt.

I'm agreeing with you. +1. Backing you up..

lol ok. I got confused and was like "but that's what I said." Good looking out.

Yes, the officer can disarm you during a traffic stop. He/She must return your piece in the same condition in which it was taken.

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/files/Publications/Publications-for-Law-Enforcement/Concealed-Carry-Publications/2009-Concealed-Carry-Laws-Booklet.aspx

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/getattachment/02ff1ca7-b17e-46e2-9f1f-505beac65926/Concealed-Carry-Laws-Booklet.aspx

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Are you replying to me or just quoting me to post the links?

Waiting for Midget Todd to comment.............

Another good video posted by crb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LksBJbjGP3A

crb found these videos and I thought it'd be a good idea to post them here. Should you only have use of one hand, it could be beneficial to know how to load and chamber a round with one hand. It's also not just your strong side that could be injured, you might only have use of your weak side. Be safe if you practice drills like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMsAvWOEj-k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0hBGWyizEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuWtAAJG8X4

OR you could just do it like this guy. wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKyGUYjCruY

i dont HAVE to figure anything out....i dont carry a gun because guns are bad and kill people

lol

I actually opened the vid in youtube and the description was:

I do not carry in Condition 3 (full magazine, empty chamber). I carry Condition 1 (full magazine, round in chamber). This is just for all the people under the delusion that people who do not carry with "one in the pipe" cannot draw, rack, and fire a handgun with one hand. The method used to rack the slide is one commonly taught for one-handed tap-rack-bang drills...catch the rear sight on the belt and push down...very easy and quick.

i agree, but his video demonstrated carrying without one in the chamber, and his response to me was in disagreement when i mentioned that its beneficial to carry with one in the chamber ...so i guess im not sure where he is coming from

Sometimes the slide catch doesn't stay back on an empty mag, or you get a dud round or stove pipe. Now you have to figure out how to rack it one handed. I don't think the video was so much showing how to carry w/o one in the tube but just how to rack one handed.

more power to you, but i wont be doing this myself....not that its a bad skill to have, but i think the chances of ever using it are very unlikely for a civilian...rather not tear up my gun on my belt buckle to practice a skill ill never use

if you think being able to rack a gun on your belt is a good reason to not carry with one in the chamber, more power to you, but i will continue to disagree

just saw your edit and video add.....while its a neat trick in the video, i prefer to carry with it already racked....then theres no use to do that...what if youre in a situation that isnt an option? what if youre on the ground in a struggle, forced to crossdraw, etc? its not an ideal situation

I don't think crb carries an empty chamber. I think His point was if you empty your first magazine and need to reload, knowing how to with one hand is beneficial.

i wasnt talking about reloading, i was talking about racking the slide ...if youre carrying without one in the chamber, you need to rack the slide before taking a shot....theres a big difference in racking it from battery than there is simply dropping the slide from an open locked position...i could reload my gun and drop the slide no problem, heck i never use two hands to drop the slide, i just hit the lever and it drops into battery....sure this may not work great for some firearms, but for mine it works just fine

You should get out of they habit of thumbing the slide release. Good chance you wouldn't be able to find or use it during a high stress incident. Just another thing to worry about IMHO

Edit: removed link, didn't read all the way through and not what I thought. lol

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True, guess I wouldn't need to carry a gun then huh.

So sorry to hear. I get choked up when someone else loses and dog and I didn't even know it. I had to put my dog down two years ago in April, I miss her as much today as I did then.

Being a veterinarian, I had been called to examine a ten-year-old Irish Wolfhound named Belker. The dog's owner, his wife, and their little boy were all very attached to Belker and they were hoping for a miracle. I examined Belker and found he was dying of cancer. I told the family there were no miracles left for Belker, and offered to perform the euthanasia procedure for the old dog in their home.

As we made arrangements, the owners told me they thought it would be good for the four-year-old boy to observe the procedure. They felt he could learn something from the experience.

The next day, I felt the familiar catch in my throat as Belker's family surrounded him. The little boy seemed so calm, petting the old dog for the last time, that I wondered if he understood what was going on.

Within a few minutes, Belker slipped peacefully away. The little boy seemed to accept Belker's transition without any difficulty or confusion.

We sat together for a while after Belker's death, wondering aloud about the sad fact that animal lives are shorter than human lives.

The little boy, who had been listening quietly, piped up, "I know why."

Startled, we all turned to him. What came out of his mouth next stunned me. I'd never heard a more comforting explanation. He said, "Everybody is born so that they can learn how to live a good life - like loving everybody and being nice, right?" The four-year- old continued, "Well, animals already know how to do that, so they don't have to stay as long."

i dont see why we have to notify anyways..... 1. it shows up on our license plates anyways 2. if we are up to no good we arent going to notify regardless of the law, and if we arent up to no good then we obviously arent a threat to the cop anyways

Just something to think about, not ever department has computers to run your plate before hand, or sometimes they aren't working. So they don't always know beforehand you have a chl. I'm not siding one way or another, just saying.

For most LEOs it's standard practice to check firearms for stolen, once you announce/admit they are there. For most, that means taking it back to the cruiser to call the s/n in and check.

My thinking is if A) the individual has a CHL and B) they notified of the CHL, that they were armed and where it was at, chances are good it's not going to be stolen. Could it be? Yeah sure. Likely? I don't think so.

If an officer takes your gun, is not familiar with it and it fires, potentially shooting himself (or somebody else, incl. YOU), would they be fully prosecuted by the law?

I can understand them wanting to protect themselves but there's just too many other variables to justify the risk (and trampling on our rights)

Let me preface this by stating I take no responsibility for your actions and the outcome of an encounter with a LEO. Do so at your own risk.

I have told friends that should you be asked for your firearm, my recommendation is to state as friendly as possible "Officer, I have no problem surrendering my firearm to you but for your safety and mine, I do not want to retrieve it from the holster. I would prefer to remove the firearm and holster as one unit or to have you retrieve it from my person. Be advised that it is loaded with one in the chamber and it has no manual safety." Or something along those lines that apply to your situation. During a stop, most people are nervous. Fingers slip, they forget where the muzzle is and could sweep the officer. If you can minimize those types of issues, it is/should be safer for all. If the LEO won't do that, well follow his orders to a T.

There shouldnt be a round in the chamber anyhow, but accidents do happen. Im sure there have been a few cases(I know there have been a few cases) where a guy has gotten a ticket and then attempted to kill the cop. Atleast this way if the guy is calm after thr ticket it is more than likely to give him the gun back. If the guy is irate after he gets the ticket than its probably not the best idea to give him the gun back.

I do see your point though, but the cop has to do what he feels is in his best interest. In this case the cop was not a Dick about it, so no.harm no foul

I have a round in the chamber all the time. No manual safety. The round only comes out during cleanings and in between shots. During a high stress incident, you lose fine motor skills and a split second can mean the difference. If you're freaking out, you may not rack the slide all the way. Now you've jammed the gun up. You might not have use of both hands. One less step means one less step that can get jacked up. If a bad guy draws on you, he will have one in the chamber. You cannot out draw him so you're already a step behind. Now you have to take the extra time to rack it, hoping you can do it before you're shot.

Well, were talking about transporting it, not walking around. The weapon could accidentally discharge while riding, if it didnt.hit the.rider or the tank it sould probably freak him out. If its.in his tank bag and he has time to pull it out why wouldnt he have time to cock it? Accidents happen, a buddy of mine got shot in the head because a gun accidentally discharged. Hell it was locked in a nightstand and he was on the otherside of the room, his family heard the shot and ran upstares to check on him and they discovered him dead with no gun in sight.

Idc what anyone does, its on them, but its just safer without a round in the chamber. im not gunna check the laws again, but in some states its illegal for there to be a.magazine in the weapon while transporting it, I have no clue what Missouri law is and I dont care. Im just saying accidents happen. Too many people get hurt thinking there is no round in the chamber(including the owner.of the gun and cops)

just be safe is all im tryin to say.

The chances of a gun discharging in a tank bag are slim. Not to mention of he want's to remove it and put it on his person, he'd have to rack it in public which could get him in trouble. Instead he can discretely put it on his person. Also, it only takes one hand to remove it, two to make it ready to fire.

I didnt say anything bout an unloaded gun, I said something about an unchamberd round... Takes less than a second to cock most weapons.

A second under perfect conditions. You won't have perfect conditions and you are probably already at a disadvantage having to draw after seeing the criminal draw his. Now the split second having to rack it could mean more the difference. Why give yourself more of a disadvantage?

Not to agree with him, but I suggest doing one hand drills reloading or swapping mags. Never know if you will be injured and need to mag swap. You use the ejection port on the slide and catch on your holster, chair, belt, about anything really its easy to do.

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Not sure what your talking about, I have backed every law I have mentiomed thus far with a link now i.may of got some mixed up, but I always backed up and corrected myself on the laws.I dont keep up in every states laws, but not a single law I said was untrue just because it didnt pertain to Ohio. In the case of the bar law that WAS an Ohio law untill 2011 if you check the link I used to back myself up and it is still a law in other states, again which I used a link to back myself up.

Umm, didn't you and I go back and forth on some Ohio gun laws and you were wrong multiple times? Even after I cited the ORC? I think you said ammo had to be separated from the gun and I showed you it didn't? Maybe it was someone else but pretty sure it was you.

EDIT: No, it was lightbulb on that instance. Disregard.