Tonik

Sorry, missed you on the list. I have added you.

Ok, as a moderator for OR it is my duty to help people here get what they want. So if its about quality and not quantity you staying home would be a very cool thing to do for the rest of us.

Must resist......

Back off asshat, I got dibs on Ian's hunting talents. When he kills all the deer in my city he can move to yours.

I just pinged my city government contact, he will know of someone.

Also look at the suburbs of the Cleveland area. Tons of them are allowing bow hunting starting this year. Mine is for example (Seven Hills), maybe contact City Hall and see if they have a list of interested home owners. My yard isn't big enough or I would let you. Hate those fuckers. It would be a slaughter, put your blind up the night before. Climb up and you will get one before the sun is fully up.

Attendance list updated in first post to reflect recent changes in attendance and so on.

The two posters above me are correct, for a change.

Ok, so I believe enough time has passed to allow everyone to not look at the routes and to not make any suggestions. So I went ahead and made my reservations. Watch the websites, Econo Lodge and Days Inn are pushing 'pay now' and get a deal. But you can't cancel or change the reservation.

We don't and we didn't.

Is that a bug, or was it working as those fuckers intended?

Can't decide who the fifth should be, there are a couple tied. I suggested we just put up six. Then Casper went out of town or something. I am pushing hard for you man, just because you can't mod with Tapatalk. That would make my day.

I should also clarify, Charter Schools in the rest of the country seem to be doing pretty good. But the way the State of Ohio set it up and allows them to operate they are a scam.

Charter School funding is a can of worms. When a child transfers to a charter school the State portion of the funding follows the child. Plus about 5K of the local funding. Which is odd, when I vote for a levy for the Parma Schools I am voting for a levy for the Parma Schools, not some unknown Charter School. Also, the public school district despite just loosing 8 or 10 grand when the child moved still has to bus the child from their home to the charter school. As for the failure of public education, if your suggestion is that charter schools are the answer you are mistaken. They are considerably worse in almost every category. Don't confuse Charter Schools with Private Schools. Two very different animals.

Yea,that is hard to say. But I think it is a big part of the solution. It has to be an all of the above I think. More education dollars, and when I say that I mean more education dollars for counseling, social work, tutoring and life coaches. As someone in a school it bugs me that we are being left to do this, but with the right resources we are the best choice. There is a private org here that is run by a teacher that quit to do just this....they have targeted about a dozen kids. And those kids are doing much better so far. Yes, more aggressively taking these kids out of these environments. If they are being raised by someone busted for crack or heroin or crap like that, just take them. If we grab them at 4 or 5 and put a couple in @whaler 's house I have no doubt they will do as well as his kids are. That's gonna be expensive to do. And somehow, we have to create inner city jobs. Poverty is a huge part of this issue. I have NFI how to do that.

Yep. But the question becomes do we give up on the kids and pay later when they become crack heads and criminals and breed more kids, or do we try and save them now?

Holy made up bullshit numbers Batman. Akron spends $13,550.34 per student, no where near 20K +. And Medina isn't that far below at 10,500. These are State of Ohio Auditor numbers that I have extensive access to, they are indisputable.

He means you @2talltim in case you were unsure.

You should buy your new step son a bike.

I said 'totally hate' as in I hate him, just not as much as I hate you.

Welcome to the darkside grasshopper.

They won't do that. They would rather spend boatloads more giving them unemployment, welfare and keeping them in jail.

And @Wojo72 is back. Just couldn't bear to make him go away for three days. He is one of the few people around here that I don't totally hate.

And if you peeps think our tax and spending issues are because of the cost of welfare, social programs and the like you are on crack. Those numbers are a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of the spending we do.

Maybe if people stopped electing people that spend shit loads more money than we are taking in on taxes we wouldn't have to raise taxes. Stop blaming others for your shitty choices at the polls. For example the 2nd Iraq war cost close to 6 Trillion dollars with interest, and we killed roughtly 100,000 enemy combatants. That is about 60 Million per Arab killed. Do any of you think that is a good return on our investment?