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If 'Rage" is determined by the tone or demeanor of the post it clearly works both ways. If you will note I forgot the link and asked if somebody could post it. It's from the State or perhaps the League Of Women Voters. Listing not who you voted for but whether or not you did vote in the primary's. Seems I voted in a primary when I was out of town and didn't use a mail in ballot. Perhaps it was a calibration error. http://www.jeffgorell.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Gorell-Veterans-Legislation.pdf http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/mccain-wants-virginia-to-count-late-arriving-military-votes/ http://www.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas/2014_sept_oct/MilitaryVoters.aspx http://knowledgecenter.csg.org/kc/content/making-military-and-overseas-citizens%E2%80%99-votes-count It is a problem that has been going on for a long time. Mobile forces and all that. In recent times it can be argued that in very close elections the military vote could have made the difference. All hanging chads aside. The military vote has been conservative traditionally which makes it a very partisan issue. Note the first link is pending legislation. It is enough of an issue that laws are pending. Laws have been passed before. Some with more effect than others, but enough of them to confirm that it is an ongoing problem. People are still exited about this "No ID" thing. Which does make sense if no id is needed then who is voting? Take this story for instance: The implication is to 'get out the vote' for people that don't have citizenship. It is a 'Hot Button' Issue. Not everybody believes we should let foreign citizens to vote in our elections. But how can you tell? And to also point out a line from a previous article; Many of the task force ideas hail from Takoma Park, Md., where undocumented residents are permitted to vote in city elections. So in the politically correct climate of the day does "undocumented residents" mean they don't have drivers licenses or they are foreign nationals? So is this really a big deal? Truth is, you will never know if it was a fair election or not.

From your counter posts, so do the liberal bloggers

The video was mislabeled it would seem. However the controversy isn't going away. Without any way to tell who is voting there will always be questions about it. Lawsuits http://watchdog.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/10/2014-10-24-1-Complaint1.pdf are being brought over the issue and a lot of questions are being asked about it. Obama's insistence in importing people and legitimizing them by pen and phone is being questioned. He apparently plans on bringing in enough of them to be statistically relevant. The lawsuit mentioned above is being brought against Maryland for making the vote too open, in effect inviting fraud. An excerpt from the article; WASHINGTON, D.C. — Lowering the bar for voting while raising the opportunity for fraud, a Maryland task force wants to “modernize” the state’s online registration process — and much more. Maryland already has some of the loosest election rules in the nation. No ID is required to vote. Effective this month, individuals can register online by inputting a name, birth date and the last four digits of their Social Security number. The Right to Vote Task Force seeks to knock down even those rules. The Montgomery County panel — 10 Democrats, three Republicans, one independent and one Green Party member appointed by the County Council — would not require proof of legal residency to register. No proof of residency? Here's the link to the story; http://watchdog.org/171259/maryland-voter-fraud/ Another excerpt; Logan Churchwell, spokesman for True the Vote, said the Montgomery County task force is promoting “a soft universal registration law.” He said Maryland, which already offers election-day registration, is pursuing a “state laboratory approach without triggering constitutional scrutiny.” Many of the task force ideas hail from Takoma Park, Md., where undocumented residents are permitted to vote in city elections. The case will be in court, for a judge to decide on it's merits. But the fact there are court cases says something all by itself. 'True the Vote' was one of the groups targeted by the IRS. Which it would seem the IRS tried to silence by it's actions. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/21/conservative-group-true-the-vote-sues-irs-over-being-subject-to-heightened-scrutiny/

http://hackaday.com/2014/10/27/hybrid-50cc-ultracapacitor-scooter/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29 We’re all familiar with hybrid gas-electric cars these days, but how about a hybrid scooter that uses supercapacitors instead of batteries? Our hats are off to [Alex] from Labs Bell for the almost entirely-DIY conversion. The hybrid idea is to drive the vehicle’s wheels with electric motors, but generate the electricity with a normal gasoline engine. This allows the hybrid to control the engine speed almost independently of the wheel motors’ demand for power, allowing the gas engine to run at its most efficient speed and charge up batteries with the extra energy. As an extra bonus, many hybrids also use regenerative braking to recoup some of the energy normally wasted as heat in your brake pads. ==== Interesting. Not much in the way of performance but an interesting idea all the same.

Link please

It will be in court for years.

It was just a matter of time. The lawyers are here! Oct 26 (Reuters) - A nurse held in quarantine for Ebola monitoring in New Jersey plans to file a federal lawsuit challenging her confinement as a violation of her civil rights, her lawyer told Reuters on Sunday. Norman Siegel, a well-known civil rights lawyer, said that Kaci Hickox’s confinement after she returned from West Africa raised “serious constitutional and civil liberties issues,” given that she remains asymptomatic and has not tested positive for Ebola. “We’re not going to dispute that the government has, under certain circumstances, the right to issue a quarantine,” he said. “The policy is overly broad when applied to her.”

It's "Operation Choke Point" sponsored by the Holder Justice Dept. Gun shops are being denied the ability to process credit cards as well. It's not just 'Square'. A 'Real FI' can/will deny the option of payment to the store as well. Cash only at some stores. Of course cash means your a drug dealer and the cops get to steal your money 'cause 'Public Safety' forfeiture. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Operation+Choke+Point Added link

In a post at the Free Software Foundation, lawyer Marco Ciurcina reports that the Italian Supreme Court has ruled the practice of forcing users to pay for a Windows license when they buy a new PC is illegal. Manufacturers in Italy are now legally obligated to refund that money if a buyer wants to put GNU/Linux or another free OS on the computer. A foot in the door for linux users! Save some money on that new pc and load your own OS. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/10/25/1443210/italian-supreme-court-bans-the-microsoft-tax

Good link! Ohio has done a pretty good job of trying to clean up the voter roles. I did see a link once to voter history which was interesting. (Seems I voted in primaries that I really didn't which is what got me thinking on this voter fraud by ballot stuffing in the first place.) If anybody has that link, post it up. Ought to be interesting. Other states not so much. While some have even changed the rules so fraud is invited and it would seem encouraged. 10 States now issue ID to non-citizens with more on the way. While this does not register them to vote in all 10 states it is a foot in the door. If you think that it is a bad idea to have non-citizens voting, keeping an eye on the rules might be a good idea. Details like provisional ballots and the regulations on overseas soldiers voting might also be something to look for. (in the 2000 election a lot of them were received to late to be counted. An odd coincidence to be sure.) Early voting can also be used to subvert the vote depending on the rules of your state (Not everyone on this board is in Ohio) With Obama rumored to be ready to import up to 10% of the population by executive order after the mid term elections this is a real issue. http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/matthew-vadum/obama-prepping-amnesty-for-34-million/ Sadly the only way to stop this is to having to prove citizenship to vote which is never going to happen in our political climate.

Tell me your on crack. Please! The article said In 2013, a new Colorado Democratic state legislature how is that Republicans? First. Your the one who started the voter ID = bad Republicans thing. Second. The original post was and still is about ballot box stuffing. Third. Your points aren't defensible. Calling a Democrat a Republican to further your argument isn't making a point. Your sacred cow is safe. Please step down from DEFCON 1. So tell me how you think we should proceed now that anybody, even non citizens can vote?

Why is it your logic only works one way? Why is it so hard to understand that political parties do things in their own best interest? - BINGO! In this case the Democrats are doing everything they can to influence the election by any means necessary. Ballot box stuffing, rigging the elections, subverting the vote, dis-enfranchising the voters, creating phony voters. Yea, it's on video, stuff like that.

Um, 'How to Vote - No ID needed' It's about not needing ID. Go ahead and beat the dead horse if it makes you feel better. Have at it. More fun for you: Are you getting the idea yet that Voter ID laws, even though they do provide you with a nice sense of moral outrage, are just window dressing for the real problem? The very first post in this thread shows ballot box stuffing not voter ID fraud. The rest of the thread is about how voter ID laws, where enacted, have been subverted. You may now carry on about whatever side topic you wish.

As I have said several times already it isn't about suppression. It isn't even about fraud at this point. The fraud is now built into the system and the voter ID is a played card. Have some Kool-Aid.

You have to be kidding me if you even expect me to pay any attention to this logic fail of a statement. I have explained this to you several times. Have you been drinking? On the other hand, lets all drink together, we will solve all the worlds problems by 2 AM! Please beat this dead horse... OMG Are you kidding me or just trolling me? WTF!!!! Really Is his your real political view? DAMN!

Seriously? Now you are taking this point of view? <shakes head and walks away>

Go back to the original post where I said they would not be prosecuted. See the link. It's about criminal activity, not in person voter ID fraud. (Which is what you have converted this too) Also the very first post in this thread which is also criminal activity, which again will not be prosecuted. Also see the post where I explained that voter ID laws will not work due the people that are not citizens having ID. The comments made about voter ID laws, if you look at them again, they point out what the Republicans were trying to do with the law. Not what others made it out to be. (Of course the Democrats made it about race. They draw the race card like a quick draw six shooter.) I also point out what the Democratic parties defensive method was which I will point out again, is giving id to anybody and everybody. Which if you think about it is a reverse poll tax. License fees to non citizens in exchange for constitutional guarantees and rights. In essence buying your citizenship at the DMV. So, once again the voter ID debate is a moot point. The Democrats have made an end run around the attempt to verify voters citizenship, verify voter eligibility, verify voter residency. We are on the way to a one party system if in fact we are not already there.

They don't like new laws. That is your starting point? But then they do, but the wrong ones. So they are bullshit. And bullshit hurts poor people. Nice linear logic. by in large many cases inconsequential some might some people people tend to A significant amount Nice stack of qualifiers. So your point is that everyone thinks this way so I don't have to think? Lucky me. Let's make it harder to vote. That's American! Lets make it so you don't have to be American to vote. Brilliant! You can ignore this all you want. That sounds like an excellent idea. Seeing as I have already explained to you that it is a moot argument.

Seriously? This is a bait and switch logic test, right?

Does any of the O'Keefe items get fixed by having showing ID at the polls? No they don't and it even gets worse here's why. Texas, California, North Carolina just to name a few states, now support Drivers Licenses for foreign nationals. Who can now vote even though they are not US citizens because they now have ID. The 'Dreamer Act' is making elections even more irrelevant disenfranchising the citizens vote even further. Leading even more un-informed or low information voters to the polls. (Think of the Clinton posters in Southern California in Spanish promising full citizenship status to all if Clinton won. Yes, it was a lie, but the posters were still there.) Some estimates are putting the number of immigrants that Obama is proposing on legalizing by executive action after the midterm elections as high as 10% of the present population. Enough of a margin to sway any election +/- 10%. Voter ID is being undermined by the Democrats and will soon be completely irrelevant as the Republicans will be forced into the position of promoting 'Citizenship Papers" for proof of ability to vote. An un-winnable position. Voter ID was an idea to stop this kind of abuse of the system. The Democrats have out flanked the position which in short order will make the idea moot. The argument that Voter ID laws disenfranchise only poor minorities is false on it's face. It is not racist or classicism. It was to provide you, as a citizen your voice in our shared government. Which you have lost, as have I. Racist Voter ID laws: Democrat or Republican? C'mon, guess! Which ones will blame the Republicans for being racist bastards that hate { insert group of your choice here } for saying things like you have to vote in your own district? See how it's done? How easy is it to set up a scene to vilify a group when you set the stage, write the script and call the press to report it. I can see it now on the 11 O'clock news: Poor blacks turned away from polls by racist Republicans. Count on it. This is part and parcel of why voter ID is racist, because the Democrats said so, that's why.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/pennsylvania-democrats-angry-they-can-now-be-sued-for-passing-illegal-gun-laws/ Pennsylvania Democrats are outraged after a bill was passed that allows gun rights groups like the NRA to sue localities for passing gun control measures that violate state law. Many such Democrats said a provision forcing localities that lose lawsuits to pay the legal fees of the plaintiffs is particularly objectionable. === Interesting. Making the locals pay for making illegal laws. On the other hand, might make for less trouble knowing what the local laws are if they all have to match the state law. Such as hunting where you could cross jurisdictions without knowing it in the woods.

More fun from the Obama pen & phone. http://watchdog.org/178516/non-citizens-voter-rolls/

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/390893/james-okeefe-strikes-again-john-fund This is conspiracy. It is a crime. It is on tape. It will never be prosecuted.

But wait, there's more! Yea! We're all democrats now! Or will suffer their policies of ever increasing taxes and ever decreasing economic stability. It's virtually non prosecuted. You're more likely to be hit by lightning 4 times on your way to the polls than to get prosecuted for voter fraud. There, fixed it for you. Quick! Disprove a negative.

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