Took a look at some car lots and have realized a few things... 1. Don't answer any questions when approached, that includes "How you doing?" 2. When asked a question that can't be dismissed say "Good, I'll let you know if I need you" 3. Used car lots are retarded if they don't post the prices on the cars 4. The internets > riding around and stopping in Definitely think the bike is going to have to be a twin or a liter+ (so an SV1000 would be good), but convincing the wife I need a 2nd bike is going to be the hardest part... can't buy it and not tell her again... I'll be murdered. As for a car, unless I want to lease again, used is going to be the way to go, and since car lots are retarded and I can't do my research on the spot I think I'm going to make a decision online and find it. Also, this may be painfully obvious to most, but I need to NOT finance at the dealership... ie find a loan and then go to the lot and do nothing more than negotiate the out the door price... I've never done that before but it seems like that's the ONLY way not to get fucked.