scottb

engraving anything is my understanding.

Not worth the risk to try and figure out what the regs mean. Just go with the black and white of what they say.

This is the best way to go.

My Durango rocks in the snow on all seasons and factory rims

Criagslist prices are way high on 2003 monte carlos.

I didn't quite get $2800, but did ok.

the miles kinda hurt the value, besides the GM badges on it

I know another opinion thread.

What do Subaru owners do for winter driving?

1. Keep good all season tires on factory rims all year round?

OR

2. Have a second set of rims with snow tires and keep the factory alloys for summer? So, 2 sets of rims and tires, install on car each season

I live in the 'burbs.Just south of Cleveland. Roads are usually plowed. My trip to work is mostly freeway, but there are spots that are constantly snow covered with wind blown snow. Occasional trips out to Ashtabula for hunting, visiting friends. I assume road plowing out that way might not be the same as the burbs.

Here's the deal. I took delivery of a new to me 2011 Legacy, with 22,000 miles on it. Factory tires are Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02.

The bridgestones have poor reviews and from Bridgestone's website, no rating for snow/ice. The rating chart just shows a dash ( - ) instead of a number from 1 through 10.

I know usually factory tires are not the best, but just enough to get you to about 30,000 miles.

I drove the car home from the dealership Monday night when the snow was falling. I was having issues in the snow with the car stopping, accelerating and slow speed turns.

Driving to work on semi-plowed roads and the freeway just flat out sucked.

After work I parked the Subaru and then drove my monte carlo to finish up running around town without issues ( Monte has Cooper CS4 all season tires)

Ok, I dont think it is the car or unrealistic expectations of how the all wheel drive should work. I think it is all due to the tires.

So, my options are:

1. get a complete set of steel rims, Blizzak tires, tire pressure sensors and lug nuts for the winter from Tirerack.com ( they seem to be the only place that has Blizzak tires in stock, local places indicate the are out of stock and can't get anymore?)

2. Get the Blizzack tires only, have my "summer" tires removed from alloy rims and the snow tires mounted. Then in the summer, get the factory tires re-mounted on alloy rims?

3. Just get a good set of all season tires on the alloy rims and keep on the car for the next 4 or 5 years. If I go this route, the all season tires will probably Cooper CS4's like the ones on my former car.

Pros of getting complete steel rims and snow tires =

Getting for sure good tires for winter travel

1.Factory alloys will not see salt

2.steel rims will get beat up in the salt instead of alloys

3.If a steel rim gets damaged by sliding into curb ( which should not happen) $60 is alot cheaper to replace the rim then $400 plus alloy.

4. For sure traction / performance in winter

Cons of getting complete steel rims and tires:

1. COST $900 instead of $450 for all season tires that will stay on the car

2. storage of the "not currently on car" set of rims and tires

3. dealing with getting the tire pressure sensor "re-learned" to the car each season.

4. the factory tire will probably need to be replaced in one year anyway due to mileage, so might as well just all season now for all year use.

So, right now, I am leaning on just getting a set of all season tires mounted on my factory rims. ANYTHING has to be better then what is on the car now for the snow.

If you are still reading this, any thoughts? Please share with the class.

Car is SOLD

lock it up (non-OR member)

Do you think the "engraving" refers to the decorative scroll work, or just the "name and address on a lower?

K, thanks for the update.

At the end of my street is the city service garage and the salt storage dome. When the full salt trucks exit the salt dome, there is usually a one foot tall "salt speed bump" at that driveway as some of the salt falls off the truck. Very nice for speed control.

Urban Dictionary must have removed the Woodbury'd......I can not find it on the site.

I got mine at Fin Feather and Fur and it was $99. I went with a friend a week later so he could buy one. I asked for them to bring out 2 rifles for inspection. The first one looked ok, but was not great, the second out of the box was a 1924 Hex receiver. So that is the he bought. I need to adjust my front sight down a little bit, eventually.

Mine barrel was packed with cosmoline and was tough to look down the barrel, but took a chance anyway.

Since 7.62 and .308 are close, if possible, I was thinking of getting a second on to convert into .308 and add the ATI stock to give it a modern look.

They are fun rifles. They kick alittle and with the metal plate on the end of the stock, you might start to feel it after a few rounds.

Those Mosin revolvers are also neat looking. I will pick one up eventually, but it is not on the short list.

I have family down south, i kinda droll at those early 80's Silverado truck down there that are:

1. Still on the road

2. Paint and body just as perfect as the day they rolled off the showroom.

My 84 Silverado plow truck was pos, rot wagon when I got rid of it. You can only patch the cab corners, cab and bed mounts so many times.

you will notice after about 5 years, your brake lines, transmission lines and everything else under your car will be super rusty.

Get acustom to having a gray-ish white salt covered car until about April.

Sweet on the Woodbury'd.

Dang a PMR-30.......humm......

Can not find a Buckmark Practical locally, so maybe this will fill a void?

But the price difference of .22LR and .22 Mag is kinda different...

Dale, not saying to, but COULD you get a 4th PMR-30?

so like didn't the tire-hanger-on-er guy notice something did not look right?

Or at the end of the shift, the next guy installing front pads was like " Dang, the bin of brake pads is still full, why are they still here?"

How about the load-them-up-on-the-truck guy, "whew, that was close, almost drove the car off the top of the trailer cuz i could not stop quickly"

hehehe....

you call that snow?

speaking of zero radar signature precipitation, anyone remember the bedford area paninis meet last year, when there was zero radar signatures anywhere near the state, and out of nowhere there was a downpour? and I was the crazy one for not riding to the meet.

I do remember that one.

I'll have to look at my weather rock, if it is wet, it means it is raining, if it is coveredin sun light, it is sunny, if it is covered in snow, it is/was snowing.

HaHa keep it down there I only got a dusting and am like 10 mins south of the lake LOL!

Dick! J/K we got about 6 inches here

I clicked.

I would have been the 5th person in line if it was 9mm.

GLWS and D(oes ) N(ot)LBTS

Good to hear you found something

I don't know enough about the pros and cons of this oil gathering process. Which side do you believe? Of course the energy companies look at as profit, but what is the possible issues for the environment? What does this water injection process do to the water wells out in those rural areas? Distruption of possible widelife by making roads and having equipment running? Farmland?

If I was a landowner, I might be tempted by a big check or royalties ( not sure what a typical agreement is ) but would like to know the possible issues with the water in those areas.

I will check that out. I do need 2 slings, and a holster for the CZ-82

Looks good.

I was working in Marysville last week, I should have stopped by Blackwing, but did not make the time.

I can play 52-pickup. Neat idea, just tooo far of a drive for me during the week.