OK, this is gonna be a bit long. As I've mentioned I'll of been on ORDN a year in July. In that time I've meet some cool stand up people and learned a great deal on here as well. Yea I see the occasional flame hear and there. Whether that's a CL poster or new members or veteran members ( ones here longer than me). I started this thread to see why everyone seems to be in a bad mood. Yes, the weather in Ohio has sucked for the past few weeks with a few good days to ride for some. My intentions were not to create a new monster to hate. In my perspective the site has a slight change but not much to really notice if your not paying attention to it. I can't really explain how I see the changes its just from what I seen on here. The people on here are still the same with the added new people who've stirred up some trouble but that's what I've considered to be the norm lately. It just seems that were going a bit overboard over certain people and it seems like its not needed. Just ignore them and they'll get the picture and hopefully back off. That's all I can agree to this sounds similar to my little sister and I when we were younger and picked on each other a lot. +1 Thanks for the good mention. Wow, man that was a bit harsh. I'm not defending anyone on here. This thread was just an observation I've notice about the site for a few weeks. I try and stay neutral as much as I can. I'm confused what are you trying to say then. Everyone I've meet seems cool and I'd like it to stay that way. I'm afraid to see people worse than that. Never said I could not deal with it, it just gets annoying after a while that's all. +1 Thanks