I dont hate on HD's, just a lot of their owner's can act like absolute anus'. There's HD fans, and there's HD fanatics. If you're a fan, you appreciate the bikes for what they do within your lifestyle.....if you're a fanatic, the bike BECOMES your lifestyle. Do or die types don't impress me, and have given me shit on occasion about my choices in a bike. I'd always check every pocket and could never find 1 fuck to give about their closed minded opinion. I ride a jap sport because it does what I ask of it, and I love the experience - HD can do the same, but to me they are simply selling a product based on it's heritage at a huge margin over metric versions of equal quality. This is simply my opinion, nothing more and no personal hate intended. Get the bike you want, and enjoy it.....just dont 'love it, live it, or leave it' like so many seem to do. It's not just for Americans or a war between countries, it's a brotherhood for all to share and be part of together.