Just thought might as well start a new thread if any others having my same dilemma as me, (which i highly doubt) So went for the first ride with VFR 2- up, did about just 150 miles, not much of hard core in terms of touring, but still this was miles and miles ahead of what we could pull off in a zx 6r. The VFR was stock and no added mods to help us, still the ride was awesome, none - minimal fatigue for both of us. ( 160lb +120lb) i guess ona good day we could have pulled off another 200ish mile very easy. Ample space for both of us, power just right, handling was silky smooth. Was going at reasonable pace but good for first time 2 up ride. Am guessing if it had after market seats, luggage (costly ) windscreen and some rear suspension tune up this will be one good do it all bike. I was okay with he stock exhaust sound, very silent but classy v4. Dont take me wrong the zx 6r was an awesome machinery and fun to ride, but i believe i am not skilled enough to utilize it to the tee, while i feel i used the vfr far better on the first day itself. Hopefully will be sticking to this bike for a long time. Most of all if better half is happy thats a good justification for getting it why i chose VFR: - like to ride 2 up quite often - wanted a not so big and heavy bike which i was confident with - wanted a bike which handled well and had good ergonomics - a bike which can do the twisty as well as dash in the city - reliable, lot of after market support and already proven track record - reasonable price and good resale For first time we used scala rider and it was frustrating in the first 10 mile, i thought i wasted good money. But all we had to do was adjust the mic for wifey and i could hear clearly at below 45ish mile and hear so so at above 45 The silent exhaust helped a lot here, thats why wanna keep it like that. I guess if i had a costly helmet with minimal wind noise the experience will be amazing at the least Wow wall of text, might as well post this in VFR forum lol