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It has been years since I've planned a route, but I just plotted it out on google maps using lots of waypoints to ensure it followed where I wanted.  Sent it to my phone and used the bluetooth headset to get the directions.  I always carried a paper map, but never used it for anything.

Always played music to, from and in the twisties.  Get a charging system set up as well.

very tempting; only reason I haven't bit, been wanting to make the jump to Pirelli's for awhile now

case in decent shape? I'll take it for 75 if we figure out where/when

http://www.assfaultjunkies.com/showthread.php?28730-Lets-rent-nelson!

hyperlink speaks for itself...

6 hours ago, DesmoDuc said:

So, in theory, someone could rent the track for club racing IF they had their own insurance, corner workers and provide an ambulance?

From the sounds of it, that could be possible if the owner approved.

I'd be OK holding off till the repairs are complete, but if someone were to get things figured out and enough MotoSeries peeps were attending, not sure if I could stay away.

Been eyeing Stroms, would have bought the one listed up last month, but it went too quick.  Blame you for the track addition, after you went to PIRC I was like "oh....why haven't I done that?".....and it was all over from there.

Wish I still had a street bike, I'd be in for this.

Anytime you are interested, let me know.  I'll be hitting at least 4 more days there this year.

Willing to bet they heard about it from more than a couple people, they didn't bother mentioning it to Jester either.   They got my $20, but I'm considering it a tip for an outstanding day.  If they all turn out like Tuesday, I'll tip every time.

Still cannot believe there wasn't a bigger turnout.  

Anticipating photos....and more track time at Mid-O!

19 hours ago, Trackbikez said:

I think Ryan and his tagalongs make an appearance around the 8:30 mark.  That might be him as the lead bike in the thumbnail preview...

 

awww man, I didn't realize that primer bike was behind me so long....really regret the ass-camera seeing that, could have had an entire session of great video.

What kind of camera you use?  Looks really clear even on youtube.  Need to pick up a better replacement for the Hero HD2 that I left on track at Barber....the cheap chinese replacement has too much distortion to use as a primary camera.

9 hours ago, AndonD454 said:

Awesome vid. I definitely underestimated how exhausting track days were until Monday. It was a great experience though, and I will definitely be back

Thanks!

Best way to fight the exhaustion is to always slam water, gatorade or other sports drinks between each session.  There is so much going on at the track (both on track and in the paddock) that it is easy to forget and become dehydrated very quickly.  Good food the day before and morning-of along with plenty of water help immensely as well.  

With that being said, I'm still feeling it from yesterday.

Love this track....$20 late fee and all.

what a beautiful day.....utterly exhausted.  Videos to come....

sent you a pm about the gpx

Sold!

Looking like Tuesday is a go.

@ 4 days, it is now throwing the single red flash, so less than 24 hours worth of charge left.  Battery is in good condition.

Thanks for the heads up.  Pretty lame....give someone a gift cert and they still have to pay.  Oh well, the winter discount offset the additional charge plus some.

Nice bike!  Agree, leave it alone or just the bead of the wheels.  Throw some number plates on it and ride!

Never really paid close attention to it, but nothing ever stood out as a big difference between them....definitely not a second +.

18 hours ago, Moto-Brian said:

Rusty is correct.  You will lose heat in a race tire unless you have the pace.  It's simple...  You are not scrubbing the tire enough to maintain the heat.  Think about this - it is 40 degrees out and you are running on a fully heated race tire.  You run a 20 minute session at :39-:40 pace.  Heat in the tire is lost...  Also, if you run out there and the set is fully warmed and you get stuck in traffic, the tires will cool and the feel is changed and you will need a bit of time to get to pace where the heat comes back.  If heat wasn't an issue for grip, why have warmers for race compound tires?

You don't run a fast enough pace and the tire will lose heat which can lose grip or become what some describe as slippery or moves under you.  Especially in 7 and the keyhole and carousel...

What? Cold tires have less grip???  No way, I bought warmers cause stands and tire socks look so pro in the paddock. 

Mid-O sucks in the cold, wet, and after car events(until the residual rubber is cleared).  Warmers and race compound tires are not going to make it any better.  When the track comes in, it is amazing and you won't be sliding anywhere on any reasonable tire in the 1:40's. 

Your scenario of 40 degrees and sub 40 pace is bullshit....you knew it when you were typing it.  Half the A group doesn't turn a sub 40 pace on a perfect day, let alone a day that is 40 degrees.  At that temp, most sane people are not going to attempt to turn a sub 40 lap for at least the first half of the day, unless they enjoy throwing motorcycles down the track.  

20 hours ago, Moto-Brian said:

Bottom line is this.  A load of crazy info here.  Best bet at the pace of :40 plus and wanting longevity on a 600, get a set of Q3s and be done.  This whole deal of guys saying they get forever on sets of tires scares the shit out of me.  But what do I know?  I know I don't cycle my tires that often and feel that the cost of tires are relative to my pace.  I will buy good tires to run a faster pace and maintain my ability to push and work on my setup and segment times.  You can try and squeeze time out of tires, but honestly is it worth the risk? 

Bottom line, you consider 5 days out of a rear (with a flip) at mid-o running a mid to upper 40's pace to be "forever" and it scares the shit out of you?  

Or are you talking about the 14 day front UK slick that I bought from you?  I agree that was forever and I wouldn't recommend it, but it was far from scary.  The tire was perfect condition and I wanted to feel the front fade.  As I already said, 1:2 ratio front:rear is what I run; as scary/risky as that is.

Or the 3rd option, you just want to type a bunch and start drama.

16 hours ago, TwiztedRabbit said:

tires are your best insurance if you will...  do you take a chance to attempt to get one more day?  are you smart enough to back your pace down? or skilled enough to really notice the tire reaching its last bit of grip?

Agreed; and that is the reason I switched to race compound tires.  Had Q2's unexpectedly let loose on me a couple times.  GPA's (and Pirelli DOT's in my limited experience) fade consistently; the fade is something you can feel and know where the tire is, instead of looking at it and guessing.  Q3's could be different, never been on one.  

If you are measuring tire life in days and you don't have the option to change or have a spare....get a new tire.  If you are questioning the tire....get a new tire.  If you are not smart enough to back down in less than ideal conditions...get a new hobby or good insurance.  If your not skilled enough...get a new tire and get on track more.

I disagree about keeping heat in the tire....is someone running a 2 minute lap going to slide off the track?  Lap times, heat generation and traction requirements all go hand in hand.  The only detriment to a race tire is the extra cost, not reduced traction at any pace.  You are going to be sliding around Mid-O on a cold morning in any case.

41 minutes ago, AndonD454 said:

Does anyone know if the novice class usually fills up quickly? I have a gift certificate and was hoping to avoid rain on my first track day if possible, so I was hoping to walk up for the May 23 session, or register within a week of. 

Couldn't say for novice, I'd just give them a call a few days before and ask how full it is.  Everyone at Mid-O is always very helpful and that also give you the opportunity to sign up right then if it is filling up.

They say it is not flippable, but I've constantly flip the 211's and Dunlop slick rears with no issue.  The only issue I've seen was the splitting front when it was ran reverse from new......then turned it the right way and ran it for a couple days while checking it out every session.

You will feel a difference between the Pirelli's and the Dunlops, the softer carcass of the Pirelli will move around at the end of the back straight.  The front end moves around under braking more than the Dunlop, which amplifies the light rear moving around.  They force you to be a little smoother with the initial application of the brakes.  Other than that, the mid-corner grip and drive out are confidence inspiring....I'd like to make the switch, but keep coming back to Dunlop mainly for the savings with take-offs.

I don't know the diameters of the Q3's offhand, but I've swapped between 190/60 GPA's, 190/55 slicks and the Pirelli with no geometry adjustment.  It's not ideal; the GPA's are about 5mm taller in the rear (10mm taller diameter vs the slicks) and I forget the size difference with the Pirelli's, but it never bothered me.

Haven't heard anything else about changes to the groups/advancement at Mid-O, so I'm assuming it will be life as usual.