JackFlash

Is this in hopes that she will want to ride with you more often, or is this in hopes that she will be more accepting of you getting the bike you want? If the bike you tease her with is not the very one that you want to end up with, there could be attitude directed at you, down the road. Put her on the very bike you dream of her enjoying, with you. If she is happy with it, and talks about it the next day with a smile on her face, your chances are good that she'll want to be your riding partner, often. .

http://youtu.be/rs_w9cwJ1Fg

It sure didn't take much. .

Really. It's give and take. But, there are limits. As long as they are generally happy with their arrangement, and it works for them, I'm happy for them. .

By not knowing the law, we allow ourselves to be treated as they wish to treat us. We should have never let it get this far. http://www.tyrannybusters.org/pages/sublev/highway.htm http://forum.grasscity.com/politics/1227205-right-travel-unmolested.html

Allowing the "other" to make your plans for you is putting yourself on a string like a marionette. No thanks, I'll make my own plans. .

This may have been payback on someone who gave the guy a problem. He may have recognized the bike as he was passing and decided it was his chance to even the score. .

Now, we're getting somewhere. .

Yes, that's what you stated. That's very close to the arrangement last time, other than where to park. Sorry to muddy up the works, if you think I was doing that. I'll just sit back with my box of popcorn and watch. .

So, you're the F'ker I've been looking for. I almost never found that key. .

I think you guys failed to see the bigger picture. This was not an assignment of riders to groups. This was a picture of where deficiencies were for leads and sweeps according to the number of participants we had posted at that time. Names were dropped in for purposes of illiustration, and based on type of group riders wished to be with. It is useful information if you choose to make use of it. .

I do know to make a left onto 669 in Crooksville, and not end us up in Zanesville. I'll consider leading a Sloooow group, but I'm not committing myself yet. I still have to see if I can get off work for this, and if the weather is crappy, I'm staying home.

I do not know the route. I may take a map and ride it ahead of time if I get the chance, but this ride is two weeks away and I have only four days off work between then and now. Getting the weatherman to do his part is the problem. I'm not leaving the house if the temperature is in the 40's. . . .

The only concern I would have about this is if they are dropping into a group that already has a maximum number of riders in it. They will not know that. I would suggest that it be emphasized that riders join a group one degree slower than they think they are skilled for so that the need to drop to a slower group would be less likely. .

People who said they would, or may be willing to lead are: jschaf - Fast derekclouser - Medium Fast rhill - Medium (or Sweep Fast) mykill - Medium helmutt - Medium Wolfman1 - Medium Cdubyah - Slow People who said they would, or may be willing to Sweep are: Tpoppa - Fast rhill - Fast (or Lead Medium) whaler - Medium Fast Bad324 (pending arrival) - Medium snot - Medium 330racing - Medium mike53ali - Medium Slow malaysionnvasion - Slow zx3vfr - Slow-er Here are the the totals of each group according to where people have stated they wished to ride, not including Leads and Sweeps. Fast - 1 Medium Fast - 6 Medium - 11 Medium Slow - 3 Slow - 23 There are an additional 4 that have not claimed a group and there are several "maybe". These are all the posting results thru today. Expect many more riders to show up. .

It's not nearly as tall as the Connie. The Triumph Trophy fits me pretty well, also. They have/had one at the Pony. A 2013 w/15K mi. A guy traded it in on an Indian. I really liked it, but I'm not ready to fork out 16G's. It was all bagged out and ready for traveling. .

I might get camping gear and an FJR. I would finance the rest. .

Thanks, Nivin. I needed that. Now, I'm going to dinner. .

This was just an idea for future large gatherings. .

Remove B-Mac from LEAD and from event. S l o o o w Group A (...............) (LEAD) <---------NEED LEAD HERE tall_tracy bloodninja420 crazyskullcrusher JackFlash OhioFZ6 OhioFZ6's +1a OhioFZ6's +1b Grokked cptchaos (................) (Sweeper) <---------NEED SWEEPER HERE (CrazySkullCrusher, Tonik?) Remove Pokey from Maybe list. Maybe: mango_sv Link JohnG Bad324 (Remains a Maybe) NinjaDoc and the Michigan Riders Carwhore Anybody got a knife? .

I agree with the ten minute separation between groups. It could easily take an hour to get everyone beyond the starting line, but it would be organized much better that way. I also like the idea of a second route to start groups on. First group takes Route A, second group takes Route B, third group takes Route A, fourth group takes Route B, etc. That would create enough separation between skill levels to minimize catching up to the group ahead of you. First group would return to the start point, take a small break/refuel/go pee, then they would go on Route B. Second group would return, then go on Route A. Everyone would return to the starting point for festivities after the ride. The place to do this would be near a four-way intersection that would allow for a routes to go in two separate directions. I really like this idea. . .

This corrects/updates only the categories indicated below and reflects what I understand the current structure to be, as of 3:30pm, Tuesday, April 29th. I have no access to the front page and cannot place any updated information there but I do wish it was there for all to see. This is not engraved in stone. Some LEADs and Sweeper are placed in positions with the question of them actually attending. Even I still don't know if I'll be able to get off of work for this. I'll know, hopefully, before the end of this week. We do need LEADs and Sweepers. Step up! Information on this page updates only what is indicated here. The remaining, unaltered information in Post #246 should still be valid. At this point, I am stepping back and letting Derek do his thing, unless I am asked for assistance. This is work, especially with only one monitor, and scrolling up and down searching for information. If I ever step in on my own again without being asked, someone please cut my fingers off. Here are the updates, from my Post, #246 to now. Medium Fast! derekclouser (LEAD) kent2406 earache wolfman1 <------Would possibly LEAD Medium Group C quikaccord Koreo MaTS1200 Blitz (Strong maybe) whaler (Sweeper) Busarider +1 for medium.....This now makes it necessary to split Medium Group B into two groups unless Medium Group A absorbs a sufficient number of riders from Medium Group B. Helmutt and Snot, how many are in your merry band of Daytonians that you need to keep together in your group, and who are they? It would be very helpful for us to have that information at this time. The rest can be used to form and fill a third Medium Group if necessary. Thank you. Bad324 and Mykill, how many are you willing to absorb into your hand selected group, and who are they. It would be very helpful for us to have that information at this time. Thank you. Medium Group A mykill (LEAD) . . . <-------- These riders to be hand . <-------- picked per request of . <-------- the LEAD and Sweeper. . . . Bad324 (Sweeper) (This group's structure is flexible based on Bad324's attendance.) Medium Group B hellmutt (LEAD) 2.slow rollnhot hahafzr <---------- Many in this Group request to stay together as they tweak740 ninjachk08 JStump <---------- are traveling to the event as a whole and prefer to stay Connie14 DUBIE J_Copeland <---------- together. The remainder can form Medium Group C if necessary. Busarider Busarider's +1 snot (Sweeper) Medium Group C (................) (LEAD) (Wolfman1 possibly) . . This Group will form as necessary, . to maintain a manageable number . of riders in the Medium skill levels. . It will form from the overflow of . Medium Group B and possibly new . arrivals with adequate riding skills. . 330racing (Sweeper) Medium S l o w (...............) (LEAD) <------NEED LEAD HERE shadyone DAC dizzledan (Maybe) mike53ali (Sweeper) Hahafzr's addition of 2 riders makes it necessary to create S l o o o w Group C. It will be necessary to shuffle people about, to even out the riders in the Slooow Groups. That can be done on site. What you see below is only a sample for the Slooow Groups. S l o o o w Group A B-Mac (LEAD) tall_tracy bloodninja420 crazyskullcrusher JackFlash OhioFZ6 OhioFZ6's +1a OhioFZ6's +1b Grokked cptchaos (................) (Sweeper) <---------NEED SWEEPER HERE (CrazySkullCrusher, Tonik?) S l o o o w Group B (................) (LEAD) <----------NEED LEAD HERE (Connie14, DAC, DizzleDan?) kz kari Jhawk Tonik smccrory (Confirmed to relieve Malaysionnvasion for video purposes. Thanks, Scott.) 2talltim Grokked (Maybe) Tonyblaze (Maybe) jd724 (1st ride w/us) malaysionnvasion (Sweeper) Rotate w/smccrory for video purposes. S l o o o w Group C (...............) (LEAD) <-------NEED LEAD HERE hahafzr's +1a hahafzr's +1b jschaf's +1a jschaf's +1b jschaf's +1c jschaf's +1d (...............) (Sweeper) <----NEED SWEEPER HERE If you are on this list, you have indicated you will attend, however, you have not indicated which group you choose to ride with. Please post which group you desire to ride with so that more lose ends can be tied up. Thank you. That goes for you "Maybe" folks, as well. porschefan cdubyah hutch (Willing to LEAD or Sweep a group of 5.) jdonn (With Hutch in a Faster group) rhill (Willing to LEAD a Medium or Sweep a FAST Group) InyaAzz rawlins87 Heagachongoose zx3vfr (Willing to Sweep Slow-er Group) Maybe: mango_sv Link Pokey JohnG Bad324 (Remains a Maybe) NinjaDoc and the Michigan Riders Carwhore

I'm inclined to agree, given that I've listed out the current structure of where people wished to be placed and who has stepped up to LEAD/Sweep. But, what's the point of even having an event/ride if everyone takes off in their own little packs at their own pace? That leaves out the single riders. Plus, people can plot their own routes without needing to attend the event. .

But, you can sweep the fast group, right? FAST!! jschaf (LEAD) OhioFZ6's +1 WHO ELSE IS IN THIS GROUP? Tpoppa (Sweeper) .