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Kaepernick is an interesting thing to bring up because it kind of sort of falls into the Title VII exception to free speech: you can't deny employment based on Race or Color. Title VII has only been around since 1964 so as a federal law there isn't enough jurisprudence to cover every situation. Kapernick made a statement about Race relations in America and as a result he was functionally frozen out of the NFL. One could easily interpret that his lack of employment is connected to his race, he made a statement related to his race and as such has not been able to play in the NFL since. But because it hasn't been adjudicated before, there is enough room to say "he was terminated because of a policy, regardless of what he said". Unfortunately we won't know the answer because he settled his lawsuit against the NFL for collusion. And we haven't even begun to scratch the surface of the context of historical bias in black public figures being silenced by their employers - which is vast and very ugly. If you are on the side of the NFL freezing out Kapernick, then you are in favor of cancel culture, but you are also kind of in favor of racists being able to discriminate on the basis of race or color in employment. It's hard to separate the two, and unfortunately the law doesn't provide much guidance.

http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1981580#post1981580 In response to this: and this: you wrote this:

First off it is not "free speech" It's just speech or mainly your opinion. See below for why this is not a "free" speech issue. Is it conservative speech? or just Bigoted speech? I know it's hard to tell the difference because of conservative politics loooong history of embracing bigoted speech as part of their rhetoric, and hell they don't even deny it and invented "coded" or "Dog Whistle" rhetoric in politics: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater But here is the thing you don't seem to grasp: Tell me where it says I have to hire a Nazi? Or a Klan Member? Where is the law that says I am obligated to employ someone I don't agree with about politics? I'll save you some time - it isn't. Honestly, in order for anybody to take this "conservative speech is under fire" argument seriously, conservatives have to make an effort to actually purge bigoted language from their rhetoric. I just don't think it will happen, it's baked into modern conservativism not since all the conservative advocates that understood that (William F Buckley, Barry Goldwater, Bob Dole, John McCain) are dead. Free Speech only applies to the government's intervention in speech, which is extremely limited. If you are talking about "cancel culture" you ARE NOT talking about free speech, you are talking about individual liberty. If you support individual liberty and a private citizen's right to act on their beliefs and opinions, then Cancel Culture is the logical extension of that personal liberty. Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. Here's a little fun fact since it came up at work today - do you know where "Free Speech" comes from? In the days of "Jolly Old England" (1640s-1660's) If you owned a printing press you couldn't just print whatever you wanted - you had to have a paid for printing license, and this license granted you a right to print only certain things. This was a way to make sure writers had control over their work (literally a Copy Right) and also for the crown to control what was printed and distributed. When the founding father's formed this country, they made sure to write into the constitution Freedom of the press (literally the printing press but also the operators like newspapers) and labeled it "free speech" because the government could not interfere or charge you a printing fee license for what you printed or wrote. They also created the copyright act of 1790 to give artists copy control over their original work (in this case mostly books, maps, and charts) so as to establish incentive for artists and professionals to create (again a copyright) with limits. Notice the theme here is government intervention. With some very narrow exceptions related to race, sex, national origin, religion, or color, there is no law that says another person has to respect your opinion or do business with you. Freedom of speech is freedom to critique the government without ending up in jail, it is not a license to be an asshole to people and they have to accept it without any consequence to you.

Or about the insensitive comments you made about a month ago in response to Mallard telling you he lost a relatives in a synagogue bombing. I'm sure they would enjoy hearing that one.

This is a cool project, but an MG midget is a tiny car. Most of CR wouldn't fit in one.

met you on your turf

What we know as common sense comes from common experience and knowledge, and people at different Socioeconomic and geographic locations are going to have different experiences and different knowledge. The point of my comment (which you and Diamonds seem to miss) is to address those that say she lacks common sense and doesn't deserve some empathy because of it. Clearly this was an accident, she made a bad call based on a lack of information/experience, and there isn't a point in berating her for a bad situation. As for rural people in Louisiana, I want everyone to have access to good education, what's wrong with that? in order to work at resolving an issue you have to recognize the issue and what are root causes and what are symptoms. Wait: I'm doing this wrong, I'm trying to address you with logic, reason, and compassion. I need to talk to you on terms you understand, got it now: Fuck your feelings, and don't have such a victim mentality that your state's public schools suck. That's what want to hear right? I mean you've said it often enough in the past so it should make sense to you now.

It was on the first page.

I said that the effects of poor education and poverty are apparent, that doesn't translate into everybody in the state is stupid, It's not a blanket statement about all the residents of the state, it's an experience based observation based around a known fact. At this point I would make a crack about your lack of reading comprehension, but since you are the only other one on here that has lived in New Orleans I'd just say you are kinda proving my point. Did I? Last I checked Tulane is a private university and we are talking about public education. You've lived there so I don't have to tell you that in the cities, anybody middle class or above pays to go to private school, leaving lower middle class and the poor to the whim of an underfunded public school system (since the voucher system allows the students to pull their money to private school as well). In the more rural areas private school isn't an option and so everybody gets stuck with the same underfunded public school. You can't even pretend to take a shot at me for basically restating what is a nationally recognized problem: https://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/education/2020/06/26/why-louisiana-ranks-nations-worst-place-children/3263900001/ Nice try though.

You have a different view? please by all means elaborate.... In fact, please tell me what you presume the "logic" to be since you didn't ask.

This is some gen-u-whine old man, get off my lawn bullcrap. First off what you are describing doesn't exist, unless you are talking about T-ball for Pre-K toddlers, and then come on man. Second yes there are sports that give out participation trophies for very young kids, and you know what? it works. Kids who starts sports young and get encouraged are more likely to develop a healthy competitive spirit and also stay with it long term. By the time they get to say Pop Warner Jr Pee Wee age (7-10) even the kids think participation trophies are stupid so they don't do them. If anything kids probably have it tougher with the advent of the internet, cyberbulling is a real problem, and one that there hasn't been a lot of work to stem effectively. It's one thing to get "feelings hurt" on the sports field, it's another to be degraded on an international stage in a very lasting way that you can't escape from. You walk off the field, and it used to stay there, now you get bullied online or someone posts a nude without your permission and it follows you everywhere. I think about him probably more than I should. When I was a sign painter, he was a real inspiration for me, and it was only later that I found out what a trash human being he was. Still he taught me that you should have a conflicted relationship with those you hold in high regard - that nothing is black or white, there are no good or bad guys, things are often more complex and nuanced. I'm sure they do, I just can't get to their house right now because covid. Then again, they HATED that hairstyle.

I don't buy it. If anything I think American values have become stronger as we move more and more toward doing the right thing and taking care of each other. Just to tie this to cars - when someone brings up the "back in my day" pusification argument I think of Von Dutch the pinstriper. He was the epitome of "tough" in hot rodding - always picking fights, riding around on an old Indian, telling his customers to fuck off regularly, Hung out with Steve McQueen (another "tough guy who beat everything he was married to). You didn't fuck with Von Dutch. Except he was a Neo Nazi by his own admission, and a raging alcoholic, and many who met him believed he was undiagnosed schizophrenic. The same "friends" who loved his work and marveled at his art were always relieved when he didn't show up to their parties. He died from complications of alcoholism, a hermit, living in a converted Bus on someone else's land. William Burroughs, author of naked lunch, was a lot like that as well, dressed sometimes like a cowboy and sometimes like a 30's gangster and collected a shitload of guns. He also shot his girlfriend between the eyes in Mexico while trying to drunkenly play William Tell. If that is what "back in my day tough" is, being an unabashed bigot, raging self medicating junkie, and an violent anti-social mentally ill person, you can have it. Truth is, pusification is a made up thing to sell you crap like axe body spray and 5 blade shaving razors and to get you to go along with outdated political policies like not paying for public education. It has no intrinsic value other than to falsely reinforce a bunch of insecure people that empathy is bad and every dispute should be solved with a punch or not at all. As society progresses, it always improves. I'll have to ask my folks for those pics, I think they are back at their house. I know I have pics from when I had long hair in the late 90's but other than me posing with my GTO in them they aren't that interesting.

Actually there are a lot of glues that get used in Hair, bonding glues for hair extensions, homemade solutions for keeping hair in a specific shape, professional hair sprays, etc... When I was 15 I had a fan style mohawk for a brief period and I used everything from egg whites and boiled sugar to watered down elmers white glue to hold it up. Some of these home remedies were groce (drying egg whites smell awful in summer). I can't speak to black culture and the practice of "gluing hair down" like a lot of women do, but glue probably figures into it somehow. If I had to guess, she probably didn't have much experience with gorilla glue and it wouldn't be unreasonable to think it was similar to Elmer's glue given the packaging (bright colors, animal mascot, similar shaped containers) Probably not but hard to say with what details are out there now. If in the past gorilla glue ever embraced it's use as say a method of attaching hair extensions, then there may be something to latch on to. I will say, I am impressed at Gorilla Glue's response - most companies would point to their warning label and then walk away from the whole situation, but they offered some assistance in her trying to get her hair unstuck. Lets see how this plays out.

Is it ridiculous though? Or is this whole thing turn around expectations about liquids in cups? So you answered the question here, it is about expectations. I've spilled coffee on myself at least a dozen times and never once did I need a skin graft, know why? Because the normal temp coffee is served at isn't anywhere near the temp that can cause that. The expectation is that coffee shouldn't give you severe burns in a matter of 7 seconds or less. So if a company is heating coffee beyond what is normally expected why shouldn't they be held responsible? The truth is that you don't have any real knowledge of the circumstances, you don't have any knowledge of how fast hot liquids cause burns, and you refuse to accept that coffee heated beyond what is normal can cause significant injury, and for some reason you have planted your flag in the camp that it is a frivolous suit and refuse to accept any other outcome even in the face of facts to the contrary.

Not at all, but I am not surprised that she didn't. Ever live in Louisiana? It's a wonderful place with it's own really interesting culture but the lack of education is pretty apparent across the board. Things that we take for granted as common sense aren't always common sense down there due to lack of exposure, education, or just poverty. Assuming she would have even gotten one, which is slim. And how would a carrier have made a difference anyway? She was parked trying to put cream and sugar in the cup with the lid off, you are saying that somehow balancing a cup in an unstable carrier on her lap is preferrable to holding it with your knees? yeah GM even had cup holder indents in the lid of the glove box in the 1960's. but that was the 1960's, and this was a 1989 ford probe - govebox was more of a basket that came down from the dash than a fold out flat lid. Let's say instead of putting coffee in the cup, McDonald's screwed up and put sulfuric acid in the cup, Would you hold McDonald's responsible then? I assume you would say yes since you are a big "personal responsibility" guy and why should Mcdonalds get off the hook. So why does Sulfuric Acid make McDonalds the villian and super heated coffee that nobody is expecting not?

It was 1992 and she was a passenger in a 1989 base ford probe. You know what Ford probes don't have? Cup holders. You are old enough that Jesus signed your yearbook so you probably remember when cars didn't have cupholders, where did you put your drive through drink? McDonalds policy at the time was not to offer a drink carrier for one cup because of it's tendency to tip over. This they did, and Karma is a bitch. Still McDonalds didn't lose because it was a bad case, There was very much a triable issue of fact in the case and it had merit. No one incident is 100% someone's fault, and in this case the jury found McDonalds 80% liable and Ms. Leibeck 20% liable. Coffee is normally served at 165 degrees F and mcdonalds was serving it at 190 - the difference between the two is 20 seconds of prolonged exposure vs seven seconds to cause severe burns. That's a big difference. McDonald's smugness got them a large punitive damage penalty, They were going to lose the case either way. Was it stupid? eh maybe. It's easy to call certain things stupid 30 years after the fact, that would have seemed reasonable.I don't think it's a reasonable expectation to spill coffee on yourself and need skin grafts to deal with the burns so even if she was taking a risk, she probably wouldn't have seen the level of harm coming. She was a 79 year old woman at the time it happened, not a young person, so it's hard to say what's reasonable for an older person to think or do 30 years ago. It's kind of shitty that you have no empathy for an older person who suffered burns unnecessarily because McDonalds just wanted to serve hotter coffee.

I'm literally so proud of you guys, I'm tearing up. I can't tell you how many years I've had to listen to dipshits talk about "frivolous lawsuits" and always bring up the McDonald's coffee case - a situation for which there isn't a massive enough eyeroll. Somebody mentioned her being a teacher, but She's a Teacher in Louisiana, the second worst school system in the country (Mississippi next door is the worst). She's also from Chalmette, a Suburb of New Orleans. The people that live there are know as the "Chalmation Nation", when I lived in New Orleans in the early 2000's someone from New Orleans described it to me as "the New Jersey of the south". The one thing I can't seem to figure out from a couple of articles I've read is, Why they can't just shave her head. did she lay it on thick? can't she just wait for her hair to grow out a little or her sink to exfoliate and the stuff will come out? Other than having her hair glued to her head, how is it hurting her?

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-shoveling-murder-suicide-surveillance-video-20210204-uudc6ma5z5bv7gf6mdnizbwj2e-story.html holy fucking shit.

You could say the same thing about 1/3rd of the comic books published since the 1950's, some with greater and more accurate detail.

pretty sure they have it right. The "ribs" are supposed to give lateral rigidity to the panel to prevent buckling from wind blowing across it. The inside of the house is high pressure and any wind blowing across the outside is low atmospheric pressure, which means the stronger the gust the more the walls want to peel away from the house. With rare exception, wind doesn't blow vertically. If you put the channels vertical instead of horizontal, every time there is a gust that blows against the outside skin the skin would ripple.

As long as you leave keys and don't mind me driving them once in a while

I don't have six parked cars....yet....:lolguy: that thought had crossed my mind I'll have to look into it. I have outdoor outlets all around the driveway, could do the trick.

Am I the only one that thinks for that money the car should be AWD? Keep it manual, keep it 668hp, just make it spin all four tires.

Me in June: "Wow I love this new big driveway, you can park six cars in it without going over the sidewalk" Me in January with just a hand shovel: "Fuck. My. Life."

Once the Edelbrock family was out of the company, it was only a matter of time before "corporate Synergy" got the better of them. This has been in motion for a long time, from the sell off of Qa1 and their Nitrous Oxide business, to the acquisition of SX and Comp Cams this is just the logical next step in a plan for IOP. If anything, Covid speeding the work from home and remote work migration probably sped the plow on this. They don't need 2 R&D departments for the cam and manifold business, nor do they need two sets of executives. At the end of the day, the performance industry needs to be near two other industries: Aerospace/Defense and heavy manufacturing. Executive and clerical positions can be done from anywhere at this point, but the actual parts making, R&D, and shipping needs to be near where the physical factories and the knowledge base is. Closing down the clerical offices doesn't seem like it's going to have much of an impact, but I am curious where the R&D will eventually end up. Comp Cam's R&D is in Olive branch, MS, so it tracks with what O'Doyle said.