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Speaking as a car dealer, IMO you're better off either not justifying your offer, or justifying it with a similar car in a similar area priced lower. 99% of the time someone complains about scuffs or bras "costing them money to fix it", I see them 2 years later with the same scuffs. Dealers know what they have and they price it accordingly. Also, it's extremely easy for a dealer to rebut your lower offer by saying "well let's leave it at the higher price and I'll fix those items for you." It's one way to expose an objection as not being a real objection, because usually when I offer to fix those items I hear "well I'd rather just have the lower price."

Can't worry about that. Could just be owner/family tracking dog hair on their clothes. No way to prove one way or another, not a negotiation tool. Frankly, I'm very impressed with your inspector that got into such detail. Tip of the hat to him. Expected wear and tear for a 6 year old car. Nothing out of the ordinary, not a negotiation tool IMO. Find out the cost of these 3 things, ask them to cover it. They can take care of these things cheaper than you can, and they'll be more willing to do this stuff as a discount than they will be willing to take cash off the car. That should be done no matter what. Not sure why the car wouldn't be presented freshly detailed. That actually gives me cause for concern, but not enough not to buy it. Both big pluses. Is this car the cheapest one in the area? If so, you're probably not going to get much off. They know you're calling from Columbus and sending an inspector for a reason. They know you're serious, and they know the car priced as it is attracted your attention. They may be completely unwilling to waver on price unless it's at the very top of the price range. Even then, if it's in WAY better condition than any other car in the area, they still may not discount. Well played.

As a dealer, I echo this. Even though I have absolute faith in our head tech, the purpose of the PPI for us is to help the customer feel like all bases are covered, and only a 3rd party can do that in many instances. I'd register on a brand or model specific forum for the car you're interested in and see if anyone there can recommend a mechanic in that area.

Any dealer would be out of their mind to refuse such an inspection. I'd suggest trying to find a mechanic through someone you know and trust, set up an appointment with the dealer's service dept to get the car on a lift, and have the mechanic show up then to give it a once over on a lift and a test drive. I'm not a mechanic by any means, so someone else can chime in with any additional tests/inspections that should be done, but the few out of state PPIs I've had have been done that way with no problems. Honestly, with an out of state purchase it makes me as a salesman more comfortable knowing that the buyer won't be calling me with a surprise complaint.

Will you be going down there to take part in person, or do you want a local (to them) mechanic to go on your behalf? We allow PPIs and more often than not, they always come back with $2500-$3000 worth of crap that 'needs to be done immediately'. The most important thing IMO is to use a mechanic who understands your goals. Do you want him to pick the car apart and reveal any single flaw? Or do you want him to do a quick once over to be able to tell you it's never been in an accident, the maintenance appears to have been performed on time, and there's nothing that doesn't justify the price.

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impossible to do screenshots?

CO is odorless and tasteless, and the symptoms are pretty mild and probably not too different from the effects of exhaustion and dehydration that would not be unfamiliar to a racer who has stayed out on track for a little too long. Driver probably though "one more lap and I'll pull in for a drink."

That's what I have. So buttery smooth.

It's got Seymour Duncan pickups, I don't think those are the problem :lolguy:

Damn that is a hell of a nice Pbass. Used to play but haven't in a long time. I'll send the link around.

My grandfather was an engineer for 35 years in East Hartford for Pratt. I always wanted to follow in his footsteps until I saw the requirements in college and remembered how much I loathed everything about chem and physics in high school.

Wtf does that even mean. I hate all politicians equally.

To be fair, greedy corporate execs with no accountability are slightly worse.

One of the minor things in these lawsuits, and one of the few things that concerns me about the Tesla factory direct model is that they seem to be able to operate outside franchise dealer laws that were implemented in the name of consumer protection. For instance, my dad's office was offered a group test drive that'd take place at their company. This is illegal, as it is a form of selling offsite due to the presence of a "salesperson." This never ended up happening, because I think Tesla is trying to abide by these laws, but the waters are a bit unclear when it comes to what things they need to abide by and what things they don't.

If these massive dealer groups put half as much effort and resources into providing top-notch customer service as they did this bullshit, they would have nothing to worry about.

It's the Onion of the world.

You've got the AIDS, big time!

I have to ask a favor, if there's any Subaru guys here I need to see if you can tell me if a car has had the timing belt/head gasket service done at a dealer. 2005 Forester VIN JF1SG63695G706105 thanks in advance.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan?

Start at the center of the lot and spiral outwards = no fucks given.

http://www.autonews.com Great publication, definitely more the business side of things but I think they do a good jobs of keeping emotional hype out of their publications.

You don't say :lolguy:

If you're ever interested in getting out of the corporate setting and into somewhere that will REALLY challenge you, PM me. My old man's the CIO at Hamilton Capital Management. Not saying this because he'll just give you a job, but he will challenge you relentlessly and will help you define a clear path to reach your goals if he can. As for me, I sell FIATs. I kind of fell into this job after getting my BA in International Relations and realizing I had absolutely 0 interest in joining the federal work force. I now think back and believe I made the right decision. I doubt I'll be a car salesman my whole life because I really miss having Saturdays to spend with friends and family, but I believe that in some way sales is the right career path for me. I'm been told by several people including those who work in the recruiting field that I would probably enjoy that line of work immensely. Definitely something I've considered.

and 16 quarts of oil per week.